Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[sindriiisgaming]

Such a shame to see Yoshi still not address the criticisms and still go farther and say he can't tell what's hateful speech and what is feedback.

Pretty sure the 100s and 100s of posts that don't mention the VA in a derogative way, but instead regard the incredibly massive plot holes and absolutely horrible character that is Wuk Lamat (despite who voice acts the character in multiple languages) are very obviously feedback. Also, considering it isn't just the English forums that have given very valid criticisms regarding how badly Wuk's character is written pretty much proves this has nothing to do with the VA and has everything to do with the writing.

What a shame, Yoshi.

To the devs, you all really need to go back to the 1.x days and rewatch those arrogant interviews of "Why do you need a jump button?" or how the forums were shutdown b/c of how loud our criticisms were - and we were RIGHT. You all really need a reality check. You're not to big to fail, and this expansion so far has been that. You need to read and receive criticisms instead of trying to hide behind "I can't tell which is actual feedback or not." We supported your game. We believed in your vision.

Well, I'm getting off that train. Fix it, please, and stop coming out in these interviews with these ridiculous comments about not being able to tell which is feedback. Not only is it dismissing such a portion of your fanbase that actually cares enough to come on here and take their time to post concerns in a very concise and intelligible way, but it is insulting those of us that are invested in your success so much that we've come here to sound the alarm. Don't turn on your fans please, it hasn't gone well for any franchise so far that has done this, nor did it go well with FFXIV 1.0. We've supported you, you need to support us - not dismiss us.

this is genuinely one of the best comments ive ever seen

[Banriikku]

It annoys me to no end, that SE/Yoshida or even the dev team do not acknowledges that there are problems but behave with the attitude : "Sorry that you are feeling that way".

But hey Yoshida said, he can't differentiate hate from feedback - here you go:

• The writing has lost quality ( i dont talk story itself, i mean the structure of the sentences, how story and information is presented and the choice of words)
• The quest diversity is terrible (repeat the same old without any shake ups)
• Voicecating is all over the place (some good, some bad - no QA? )
• Dungeons are not really harder but have nice design but without depth (learn it and youre done)
• Raids are fun in design but have also no depth (the same here as in Dungeons: once learned you are done and that takes no time and minmal effort. Where is the replay value?)
• Music is extremly good and of high quality BUT misplaced/missused (not sure which is the correct term here)
• Worldbuild is... there is none - Everything is a tool for the MSQ to expose you some infos for the next step as a result there is no reason to care/like/dislike for anything or anybody
• Missing QOL (colour system is halfbaked - not bad but (damn) also not good, why those extreme limits?
• Portrait system still the same mess - Feedback was given many times even with examples
• Fates still the same (despite the fact that they "learned" so much - their words, not mine - and still did nothing with it)
• Island Sanctuary is done and/or dead despite beeing a Xpac feature?
• Overall replay value of content is the lowest ever
• Savage gear still beeing on a pedestal (Why? Open more venues for Savage gear)
• Gearing AND jobs are boring - Also jobs are so similar i expected/had hopes for some shake up but nothing.
• Open World - dead since ..... i dont know ... the beginning? Why bother whit creating one?

And that is just my rambeling. They know this but do nothing or so little. QoL is not happening or extremly slow/limited nobody cares anymore. Content is or has little to no replay value AND is exremly slow implemented ( i think its the sylowest of the industry in the pay to play +pay per xpac section). Feedback is given in many aspects but nothing.

Also we have communication?
NO there is none.
They say in the most obscure way possible whith giving as little as possible information for a couple of feature WHICH in many other games is nothing special but here at FF14 is pushed as "Wow, look i DID SOOOO MUCH AND SOOO GOOOD" despite beeing mediocre at BEST with enough limitation that even me, a german, think that is way too much rules/limits.

Also almost none of the player concerns are adressed except we rage like Kratos on all platforms.

The LLs are simply "we will do this" and any criticism, concern or feedback WILL be and HAS BEEN so far beeing ignored or waited until way to late.
That is not communication.

And after ALL that silence, ignorance and doging questions we get a PR speech at the highest level with gaslighting so damn hard i could supply all of Europe with it and deflecting i could take the deathstar superlaser head on with it.
Sorry is Yoshida now a politician from a european party ?

[SteakDriven]

Tural isn't "representing" a real world culture, it's making up a fantasy culture inspired by a real world culture.

[Vensaval]

Tural isn't "representing" a real world culture, it's making up a fantasy culture inspired by a real world culture.

Ishgard and Othard were also inspired and were far better than Tural as a whole. All inspiration in Tural is surface-level and bland.

[Daralii]

Ishgard and Othard were also inspired and were far better than Tural as a whole. All inspiration in Tural is surface-level and bland.

Every nation's based on one or more RL countries, present and/or historical, but apart from a handful of things like the dead baby pit Tural feels like it's been sanitized to the point of contradicting preeexisting lore. Ishgard is primarily medieval France, but it had so many problems that they were still struggling with the fallout of the Dragonsong War in Endwalker's role quests, while Tural's issues are by and large wrapped up by Wuk's coronation, and then everything else is seemingly resolved after Zoraal Ja and Sphene are dead.

[Zelda206]

Wuk Lamat ruined the MSQ while the VA is bringing ruin on Twitter and simultaneously destroying the PR being heaped on trying to protect Bryer from criticism, systemically destroying the good will that was built between the team and playerbase by once again proving that hiring these individuals that are so full of themselves has done nothing to help the industry on any level. Our WOL was a pretty strong and sturdy individual with a myriad of ways to answer (even though the ellipses answer hardly went anywhere), but DT was the first time we had our tongues cut out and replaced with a strawman's. The entire fiasco surrounding the VA may be small, but it's a blatant red flag on the rest of the change that's going on in the team and in the product.

[AnimaAnimus]

Ishgard and Othard were also inspired and were far better than Tural as a whole. All inspiration in Tural is surface-level and bland.

That is because there was intrigue and tension in Ishgard and Othard. Tural is just peace and tacos and has absolutely nothing of substance and when they tried to shoe horn some in, it was too late and done sloppily. Sure it is a new chapter like ARR but ARR at least had stakes. The fault clearly lies on Hiroi and Kate, since she seems to have her fingers all over the writing and story too, and both of them need to be held accountable for what is clearly XIV's lowest point writing wise.

I am so scared on how FFXI is going to be butchered in the upcoming raid. So so scared. Vana'diel has some of the best story and lore in the FF franchise that was handled with care throughout its life cycle. I really hope they don't poo all over it like they did with Tural.

[Vensaval]

That is because there was intrigue and tension in Ishgard and Othard. Tural is just peace and tacos and has absolutely nothing of substance and when they tried to shoe horn some in, it was too late and done sloppily. Sure it is a new chapter like ARR but ARR at least had stakes. The fault clearly lies on Hiroi and Kate, since she seems to have her fingers all over the writing and story too, and both of them need to be held accountable for what is clearly XIV's lowest point writing wise.

I am so scared on how FFXI is going to be butchered in the upcoming raid. So so scared. Vana'diel has some of the best story and lore in the FF franchise that was handled with care throughout its life cycle. I really hope they don't poo all over it like they did with Tural.

It's not even the lack of intrigue and tension, but the lack of actual culture as well. As you said, Tural is just peace, food (mostly tacos), llamas, and merchants. The Yok Huy had the most developed culture, but even that was rather minimal.

[Lyndina]

In hindsight...so much was/is wrong with Tural....i laughed about while i did the msq...but. Everyone wears the same colored poncho, from human to birdman to Lizardpeople, often even the same colors. It just looks lazy and quickly thrown together like some untalented designer just had the job to "fill" the map with npcs. Instead of putting effort in he just copied in the standart model for 100 times and called it done.
The "races" in lack for a better word are so one dimensional. "Oh here we have the pelu-pelu" which love to trade but are after a fair deal for everyone. The one person that we meet hasnt choosen a "job "yet...surprise...he wants to become a trader. Wow. Same with the goblins...everyone is a crafter. Thats not how you show a continent, thats how you introduced your beast tribes expansions ago.

[Midare]

It's not even the lack of intrigue and tension, but the lack of actual culture as well. As you said, Tural is just peace, food (mostly tacos), llamas, and merchants. The Yok Huy had the most developed culture, but even that was rather minimal.

There has been more culture on the DoH quests than in all of the MSQ combined, and I'm not even half way done with them.

I found funny that at some point in one of them, they mention the pelu find mate nutritious and that made me laugh, because I live in a place where mate is very popular (to the point were people carries thermoses with them to make it even when hanging out at a park), and some people do believe that when in fact mate is just disgusting bitter tea

Yeah... I hate mate, and I don't understand why so many people like it, but don't tell people here, they might lynch me.