Why the housing system makes people quit and possibly not come back

[Tunda]

indie games has better housing system and it is online.. just 1 year ago Mr. yoshi decided to kill my house which it was large and over 200 million worth of items..

give me a break I will never go back to that again

[Catwho]

The auto demolition was added because you'd have dead free companies where the last person who was set as FC leader logged on 350 days ago and was a level 38 lancer that didn't even have a job stone equipped. So I don't have a problem with the concept of auto demolition.

But.

1. It should have been set to a MUCH longer period of time, at least 3-4 months for free companies, and like a year for personal houses
2. This would mean they didn't need to turn off the auto demolition every time a natural disaster happened, for that matter

The current 45 day limit sounds like exactly the sort of genius idea dreamed up by an actuary trying to "drive customer engagement" and not a customer server minded designer trying to solve the problem.

[PassinLay]

The auto demolition was added because you'd have dead free companies where the last person who was set as FC leader logged on 350 days ago and was a level 38 lancer that didn't even have a job stone equipped. So I don't have a problem with the concept of auto demolition.

But.

1. It should have been set to a MUCH longer period of time, at least 3-4 months for free companies, and like a year for personal houses
2. This would mean they didn't need to turn off the auto demolition every time a natural disaster happened, for that matter

The current 45 day limit sounds like exactly the sort of genius idea dreamed up by an actuary trying to "drive customer engagement" and not a customer server minded designer trying to solve the problem.

It forces people to stay subscribed so thats a problem by itself especially with the lack of content in the game, that's why adaptable wards that auto create based on demand (for smalls at the very least) are a good idea. At least people can stay subscribed if they want to, but are also able to get a small at the very least when/if they come back

[Catwho]

It forces people to stay subscribed so thats a problem by itself especially with the lack of content in the game, that's why adaptable wards that auto create based on demand (for smalls at the very least) are a good idea. At least people can stay subscribed if they want to, but are also able to get a small at the very least when/if they come back

The problem is with the existing wards that were clogged up with clearly abandoned houses that nobody could purchase because the FCs were long since gone. Before auto demolition was added, we had a dozen of these houses on every ward.

I don't disagree that for the future, an instance housing solution is a much better way forward. Note that apartments never go away - if they added additional medium and large sized apartments and added the missing features that people want from houses (exterior yard spaces, the ability to plant things, etc) or just added the instanced ward with dummy houses and/or charged an extra fee to unlock extra houses in that same ward on the same account.... they'd make money and solve the problem too.

But auto demolition was added on our request for a reason. They just implemented it in the greediest way possible.

[PassinLay]

The problem is with the existing wards that were clogged up with clearly abandoned houses that nobody could purchase because the FCs were long since gone. Before auto demolition was added, we had a dozen of these houses on every ward.

I don't disagree that for the future, an instance housing solution is a much better way forward. Note that apartments never go away - if they added additional medium and large sized apartments and added the missing features that people want from houses (exterior yard spaces, the ability to plant things, etc) or just added the instanced ward with dummy houses and/or charged an extra fee to unlock extra houses in that same ward on the same account.... they'd make money and solve the problem too.

But auto demolition was added on our request for a reason. They just implemented it in the greediest way possible.

I dont even agree with instanced housing at all, if anything I am agaisnt it, I just think self-create wards are the best idea so that everyone can at least get a small is an easy way to keep both the ward housing and also to make everyone have a place they can call home.

Instanced housing would be a soulless place, it would be atrocious in itself, there's already enough games with atrocious housing, and I sincerely hope it never comes to FFXIV.

The problem of auto demo would be solved by self-create wards, and even increase their revenue indirectly as more people would stay subscribed because of their house.

[TheArcticOne]

Unpopular Opinion: People should be allowed to sell their homes. But it should be in an open bidding process through the housing system, so home owners can get back their gil. Right now they have no reason to let go of a house, when doing so means they lose all the gil they put into it. You give me a way to get back my gil, or maybe even more, and I'd let go of most of my houses in a heartbeat. That's how it works IRL.

[genuine_stranger]

I dont even agree with instanced housing at all, if anything I am agaisnt it, I just think self-create wards are the best idea so that everyone can at least get a small is an easy way to keep both the ward housing and also to make everyone have a place they can call home.

Instanced housing would be a soulless place, it would be atrocious in itself, there's already enough games with atrocious housing, and I sincerely hope it never comes to FFXIV.

The problem of auto demo would be solved by self-create wards, and even increase their revenue indirectly as more people would stay subscribed because of their house.

Why in the seven hells would you be against instanced housing? Private wards are a waste of resources. You get a house, decorate it, and then it wastes away for all eternity in a ghost ward.

It's just as atrocious as those other games with instanced housing, safe of the fact that everybody can get a house in those other games.

IMO, they should get rid of private wards and make them only available for FCs and introduce instanced housing for players with upgrade options.

[PassinLay]

Why in the seven hells would you be against instanced housing? Private wards are a waste of resources. You get a house, decorate it, and then it wastes away for all eternity in a ghost ward.

It's just as atrocious as those other games with instanced housing, safe of the fact that everybody can get a house in those other games.

IMO, they should get rid of private wards and make them only available for FCs and introduce instanced housing for players with upgrade options.

I dont find it interesting and fun, that's just my opinion, I'd rather be in a "dead" ward with actual player made houses than be in a dead "instanced" ward with no houses at all or pre-built houses, at least in ward housing I feel like I am in an MMO, with instanced housing I wouldnt feel that, plus it removes the entire uniqueness of FFXIV's housing, so no thank you.

[Blindheart]

I would love for housing to be better in this game. Both in terms of availability and storage of housing items. Especially outdoor items. I have a small house but only like 20 spaces to store items. At least with apartments, free company room, and personal house I can hold so much more items interior, but exterior is so restricted. Island sanctuary does not help as that is some glamor system and not storage. Even just adding an outdoor garden or something with indoor decorating limits would help.

Could be even more interesting to add private grottos or something around the world in places we normally don’t have housing. Just a small instanced area like apartment rooms except you get an outside and inside space with much higher item limit for outside items. Moon would be a good place for this, or garlemald, ala migo, sharlyean even… we saved the star, surely they can afford to give us a house, or a smaller research cave in labarynthos.

[PercibelTheren]

There are plenty free houses, just buy a S house instead of trying to get a L/M House, they are limited and in my opinion every ward should only have 2 M Houses and 1 L House.

Its easier to complain about the housing because lets be real most people complaining here are complaining because they cant get a L/M House.

Why should big houses be limited? I keep seeing people saying it and I have never once been presented with an actual argument for it. Clearly, people don't want Small houses. Mediums and Larges get picked up immediately while the Small houses are left empty.