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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    I find his pivot from "We have a rough draft of the next 10 years of story" to "We were throwing random shit out to see what people liked" interesting. Either one could be a lie or both could be lies.




    They may have had that draft. But then DT went live and, well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regis_Paran View Post
    They may have had that draft. But then DT went live and, well...
    I don't see a lot of people hating the parts of the Dawntrail story that would legitimately lead to years worth of story content. Some of the plot hooks Dawntrail left out for a potentially very long-ranging story seem to have been received well enough--that is, the inter-shard travel and the question of Azem's involvement (the name "Dawntrail" itself and all the solar imagery in the WoL's skills and peppered around the place are hinting at an entirely different 'sun' we're walking towards than the Dawnservant!). There is scaffolding being laid down for some seriously interesting adventures that don't have anything built on them yet, and I haven't seen a lot of hate pointed that way.

    More like, Wuk Lamat and how she has been received have just absolutely obscured the other, better things they can build out of Dawntrail, which is understandable and unfortunate. We'll see!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    I don't see a lot of people hating the parts of the Dawntrail story that would legitimately lead to years worth of story content. Some of the plot hooks Dawntrail left out for a potentially very long-ranging story seem to have been received well enough--that is, the inter-shard travel and the question of Azem's involvement (the name "Dawntrail" itself and all the solar imagery in the WoL's skills and peppered around the place are hinting at an entirely different 'sun' we're walking towards than the Dawnservant!). There is scaffolding being laid down for some seriously interesting adventures that don't have anything built on them yet, and I haven't seen a lot of hate pointed that way.
    The thing is even if they had planned for multiple episodic contents, they are still responsible for making each individual episode interesting. We didn't have to wait 10 years to get EndWalker, SB was a bit of a drag but HW and ShB were phenomenon in its own right. This is especially true if you look at HW which is very self-contained. The core of HW didn't need much leading into it, and once it's done there isn't much else scaffold from it.

    Far more than what it is or what it tries to be, the problem with DT is simply the quality just isn't there.

    - It doesn't matter if it's supposed to be a relaxing story.
    - It doesn't matter if it's supposed to be a an epic story.
    - It doesn't matter if it's supposed to be a foundation for the future.
    - It doesn't matter if it's supposed to be a self-contained story.

    The writing of DT fails at basic 101 level. I dare say if this same team were given the task of writing EndWalker, I seriously doubt it would turn out anywhere as good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    The thing is even if they had planned for multiple episodic contents, they are still responsible for making each individual episode interesting.
    Of course. I only commented to say I think there's still room for them to have a 10-year rough draft without current discontent affecting it severely. There's a whole lot wrong with Dawntrail as a self-contained piece.
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