Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Len_]

It's a totally different mesh. There IS a reason. I think they can tweak it further, and they have, but I also think they've been working hard on a whole lot of things, not just the faces models for months on end. I am an artist. I know how extremely difficult it is to replicate something else with pixel-perfect precision, and I think expecting that is absolutely unreasonable.

Nobody told them to tell the players their main directive was to preserve the impression of the characters and then cheap out on doing the bare minimum first step necessary to achieve that of faithfully recreating and upscaling the assets. "They're working so hard on so many other things." Yeah, we could tell.

[Astronis]

Nobody told them to tell the players their main directive was to preserve the impression of the characters and then cheap out on doing the bare minimum first step necessary to achieve that of faithfully recreating and upscaling the assets. "They're working so hard on so many other things." Yeah, we could tell.

Yeah, I guess it is the dev's fault for trying to please their players. Perhaps next time they won't try and won't say they will try.

[Silaryn]

Yeah, I guess it is the dev's fault for trying to please their players. Perhaps next time they won't try and won't say they will try.

So the only difference is that the devs are going to be honest about it next time.

[Astronis]

So the only difference is that the devs are going to be honest about it next time.

Sure, if you think three or more different passes at fixing and responding to things pointed out by the players over several months with (likely) more coming constitutes no effort. They aren't perfect, but...to think they aren't trying, I just don't get it.

[Silaryn]

Sure, if you think three or more different passes at fixing and responding to things pointed out by the players over several months with (likely) more coming constitutes no effort. They aren't perfect, but...to think they aren't trying, I just don't get it.

The devs are doing work, I'm not calling them lazy.

The salt is more about the honesty part. The way the devs handled this has left a bad taste in my mouth. We got PR statements that happened to be lies. The devs said they would try to keep the impression of our characters the same and looking at the feedback on this thread there is no way I can be convinced they actually did. Then there was the free fantasia stunt. They said they'd give us a free fantasia to "tweak" and "fix" our characters except Final Fantasy doesn't have that kind of character creator. This isn't Black Desert where there are sliders for everything. Did the character update change the shape of your eye? You're SOL because you only have 4 other eye options to choose from and they're all completely different shapes. Not to mention a lot of the changes can't be fixed by a fantasia, like faces being puffier than before.

I still don't think they tried as hard as they could. Dark skin is shiny now and everyone has lip gloss even if they don't have lipstick. I would be shocked if that was intentional. Au ra had a white spot on their hands when the update went live. They fixed it but it really should have been caught and fixed before the update. There are examples here of textures not being aligned. There are a lot of other examples on this thread that show a lack of effort on the dev's end.

Sorry thread for being salty and not constructive. This bothers me and I needed to vent.

tl;dr: Devs lied and half-a**ed the update. I hope the PR team got the raise they deserve.

[Astronis]

The devs are doing work, I'm not calling them lazy.

The salt is more about the honesty part. The way the devs handled this has left a bad taste in my mouth. We got PR statements that happened to be lies. The devs said they would try to keep the impression of our characters the same and looking at the feedback on this thread there is no way I can be convinced they actually did. Then there was the free fantasia stunt. They said they'd give us a free fantasia to "tweak" and "fix" our characters except Final Fantasy doesn't have that kind of character creator. This isn't Black Desert where there are sliders for everything. Did the character update change the shape of your eye? You're SOL because you only have 4 other eye options to choose from and they're all completely different shapes. Not to mention a lot of the changes can't be fixed by a fantasia, like faces being puffier than before.

I still don't think they tried as hard as they could. Dark skin is shiny now and everyone has lip gloss even if they don't have lipstick. I would be shocked if that was intentional. Au ra had a white spot on their hands when the update went live. They fixed it but it really should have been caught and fixed before the update. There are examples here of textures not being aligned. There are a lot of other examples on this thread that show a lack of effort on the dev's end.

Sorry thread for being salty and not constructive. This bothers be and I needed to vent.

tl;dr: Devs lied and half-a**ed the update. I hope the PR team got the raise they deserve.

I get that. A Fantasia can only fix things if the changes ended up being minor enough (I have thought about using the free one to change my character's skin and eye color, for example). There's plenty it can't fix. So yeah, I can sympathize with feeling mislead and lied to. There's sure as hell other parts of Dawntrail I'm not pleased with and the PR isn't making it any better.

I (obviously) think they did a much better job delivering on the "impression" part than others do, but since that's inherently something that is subjective and not objective, lots of people will not feel the same way. I hope they can correct enough to make you happy, sincerely.