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  1. #131
    Player LibitIncarne's Avatar
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    Libitina Incarne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Very sane behavior you are displaying there lmao
    She's been streaming the game on Twitch, off and on. Would it be "very sane" to show off Yoshi-P's character?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Didn't she say some character in guilty gear should have another VA because the character was trans and the VA not?
    Bridget, who came out as trans in Guilty Gear Strive.
    I'm all for trans people getting VA roles, but only if their voices actually fit. (e.g. non-vocally passing VAs staying voice acting people of their AGAB or voicing trans/nonbinary characters, vocally passing VAs voice acting people of their gender identity)
    It's hilarious for someone with a non-passing voice to complain about a trans character who in their prior appearances passed so flawlessly that they had to repeatedly say "...actually i'm a boy" (It's complicated, go look up Guilty Gear's lore if you want to fully know what i'm talking about) not having a trans VA.
    No, Sena. You don't fit the role so stop thinking it's the industry's problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vensaval View Post
    Reminder that Susan Calloway lost her job over liking Tweets, but Sena gets away with inciting hate and calling others racist.
    When Calloway was actually loved by the community for singing the song that marked the end of 1.0.
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  2. #132
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    Leon Arcadian
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    Well unfortunately "doing your best" in this context doesn't really matter if your "best" is something bad that people hate.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vensaval View Post
    Reminder that Susan Calloway lost her job over liking Tweets, but Sena gets away with inciting hate and calling others racist.
    Kinda... they just didnt rehire Susan, she wasnt flat out fired. Think well see a similar deal here with the VA, once all the contracted work is done with her and FFXIV they'll simply not rehire.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    No we must cancel her for it! /s
    Because if you had a shirt ingame that said those instructions to say....people of a ethnic group - you think people would not react harshly if they saw you wearing it? The reality if folks can play it off as not being a big deal because they know folks would not do it and if they did then the full force of the internet would come down on them. To assume otherwise I feel would to be out of touch or very naive.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    I'm actually interested as to why this was said in an article not everyone is going to read. Not everyone is terminally online like some of us are, and tbh I wouldn't have even known this article existed if not for the fact my phone's browser pushed the article up for me.
    I am on the side of "don't harass her" (though I don't condone some of her tweets, particularly the Smile one), however if he really wants people to stop he needs to post a Lodestone article about it or say something at the next Live Letter (though it being in front of Japanese people at Tokyo Game Show, I doubt that option, unless something else happens between now and then.)
    I suspect this is a situation where SE is trying to take the high road. They realize they have a large population of the LGBT community in FFXIV and don't want to be seen as ignoring Sena's plight; the reality is Sena seems like a super toxic person and most folks will probably take her word for it if she claims to be a unprovoked target of dislike/hate. I think SE is just hoping that they can end her contract quietly while she is on strike on the grounds of that she had to be replaced because the character needed to be aligned with the patch cycle. For Sena it is likely a win as well because she can then raise her social media profile and simply claim SE is transphobic and didn't support her; getting some support as the underdog abandoned by a souless corporation.

    SE just wants this to go away and it seems unlikely Sena is going to let the discussion die in obscurity because they want the exposure.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Kinda... they just didnt rehire Susan, she wasnt flat out fired. Think well see a similar deal here with the VA, once all the contracted work is done with her and FFXIV they'll simply not rehire.
    Yeah, she "lost her job". "Answers", "Dragonsong", and "Revolutions" are iconic songs, and it's really upsetting that we likely will never get to hear anything new from her in XIV because of something so trivial.
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    Howdy o/

  7. #137
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    this stuff will fade away

    also to Square enix may i suggest a Story beta testing with you player base so you can get story feedback this would avoidance the whole problem in first place

    the second suggestion is to was what i think was a better approach to dawntrail

    would introduce Sphene reincarnate as a orphan have warrior light focus on find who she is by look in different villages is have scion focus on more Wuk Lamar her goal. have it so sphene as lost child and WoL tried find where she came for. only help scions when they need move to a new area or need help. you could have conflict between the child Sphene order the drones and soldiers stop, this a line they story tried find who Sphene the child is. this would make Wuk Lamar and Sphene would then a line to end also the fact that they miss focus on krile story aswell
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    this stuff will fade away

    also to Square enix may i suggest a Story beta testing with you player base so you can get story feedback this would avoidance the whole problem in first place

    the second suggestion is to was what i think was a better approach to dawntrail

    would introduce Sphene reincarnate as a orphan have warrior light focus on find who she is by look in different villages is have scion focus on more Wuk Lamar her goal. have it so sphene as lost child and WoL tried find where she came for. only help scions when they need move to a new area or need help. you could have conflict between the child Sphene order the drones and soldiers stop, this a line they story tried find who Sphene the child is. this would make Wuk Lamar and Sphene would then a line to end also the fact that they miss focus on krile story aswell
    beta testing is dumb and spoilers and leaks would be rampant. Even dealing with datamines is a chore as it is but imagine if we had to deal with beta leakers too.
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  9. #139
    Player LibitIncarne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AddictedToWitches View Post
    beta testing is dumb and spoilers and leaks would be rampant. Even dealing with datamines is a chore as it is but imagine if we had to deal with beta leakers too.
    NDAs exist for a reason.
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibitIncarne View Post
    NDAs exist for a reason.
    This will not stop leaks at all, if you have ever been around for a game with a private beta server you'd know this. People are just not afraid of NDAs
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