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  1. #101
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    Aniise's Avatar
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    Nhaama Kagon
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Necros View Post
    I mean one is a protected class the other was openly discriminating against specific people. Reading most of these comments makes me think you all would defend neo nazis if she openly said she was against that shit. She's wearing a shirt hating transphobes and you guys think that's a terrible thing this is exactly why I loath this community.
    I...think, some of the "protected class" (eh, really? We divide humans in classes again? Yikes...) really enjoy their status to be fair. And even enjoy abusing it to be quite toxic themselves without having to face any consequences. Sena is one of those cases which is evident looking at her twitter posts and it sucks. Her calling the players who dislike SMILE racists is only the tip of the iceberg.

    Also, people need to realize that you can criticize the writing of Wuk as a character and at the same time criticize Senas VA work as two separate things. Just the same as you can like one and dislike the other at the same time. It's possible. And criticizing both doesn't automatically mean you dislike one thing because of the other. For example, I loved Wuks german VA but couldn't stand her as a fictional character.

    Harassment is never okay, that has been said again and again and I stand by it. But there is a red line that has been crossed by Sena and her posts on twitter, so I really get that many of the fandom don't like her right now. What goes around, comes around. Being "protected" doesn't entitle you to be an ahole to others. It doesn't give you a free pass to be misogynistic either. We as humans should be held to the same standards of behavior, because I don't think we should start thinking in "classes" again, where one class is allowed to do just about anything. History should have taught us this never ends good in the end.
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    Me too, Erenville, me too

  2. #102
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    Willemdarke's Avatar
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    Ashtyr Kayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Necros View Post
    She's wearing a shirt hating transphobes and you guys think that's a terrible thing this is exactly why I loath this community.
    I'm a simple person - I don't like transphobes, therefore I avoid them and try not to engage.

    A better person than me, like a Wuk Lamat (who the VA occasionally pretends to be on twitter), might try to understand the transphobes, educate them and reach a common ground of understanding, peace and love.

    This VA openly displays the slogan "Sacrifice transphobes to Satan", with an inverted cross for the T.

    Please insert any other group of people in the above slogan and try to justify how this is an acceptable, normal behaviour.

    In Europe, where I'm from, we do not have a death penalty, and certainly left-leaning politics, which advocate for LGBTQ rights, do not advocate for death penalties for people they simply disagree with. They don't advocate for the discrimination of women. They don't blanket label white people racist or attack their own communities.

    Can we please stop pretending this VA, whatever her identity might be, is a shining beacon of goodness and normalcy, which is simply not the case?
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  3. #103
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    Sangrid Yonaka
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    Twintania
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    "[...]“It is really not that they are trying to bring forward an argument about a certain movement or anything like that. It’s just that they are doing their best for the development of the game[...]”

    So it's okay to act as unprofessional as possible, insulting your fanbase and other VAs in the name of "development"? Yoshi P is an enabler here. It's quite glaring when you're shifting the blame to the consumers. It would've been fine if Yoshi said "we're trying our best on working on the situation so everyone could come out of it satisfied". You don't need to cancel/fire anyone, it's just damage control. Now I won't deny that harassment didn't happen but their "professional" VA also harassed other people.

    Her performance was bad. Plain and simple. It doesn't have anything to do with her ideology or complex.

    What I found funny is that she's playing a peace-lover hippie-like character but she's NOTHING like Wuk.
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  4. #104
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willemdarke View Post
    This VA openly displays the slogan "Sacrifice transphobes to Satan", with an inverted cross for the T.

    Please insert any other group of people in the above slogan and try to justify how this is an acceptable, normal behaviour.
    Any other group? "Sacrifice Nazis to Satan" I think that's kinda easy to justify. There was an entire war over this and we celebrate the end and its victors. Even some bigger battles are held in heroic memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  5. #105
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    nazis are idiots. but sacrifizing other people to satan? that seems like something an idiot would do.
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  6. #106
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    Ashtyr Kayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Any other group? "Sacrifice Nazis to Satan" I think that's kinda easy to justify. There was an entire war over this and we celebrate the end and its victors. Even some bigger battles are held in heroic memory.
    I'm sorry, I worded my post incorrectly. Should have been:

    "Please insert any other group of people (who have not killed dozens of millions of people and commited numerous other unspeakable crimes besides) in the above slogan and try to justify how this is an acceptable, normal behaviour."

    (And as much as I dislike transphobes, that's like comparing an annoying mosquito to the Death Star, so kind of not on the same scale.)
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  7. #107
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Take it easy it's just a shirt.
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  8. #108
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    Amanda Hallowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Take it easy it's just a shirt.
    Yeah lets all just wear shirts about killing people, it's just a shirt right ?
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  9. #109
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Yes, it's just a silly inoffensive edgy shirt.
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  10. #110
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    Amanda Hallowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Yes, it's just a silly inoffensive edgy shirt.
    "inoffensive"

    Lmao
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