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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Any other group? "Sacrifice Nazis to Satan" I think that's kinda easy to justify. There was an entire war over this and we celebrate the end and its victors. Even some bigger battles are held in heroic memory.
    I'm sorry, I worded my post incorrectly. Should have been:

    "Please insert any other group of people (who have not killed dozens of millions of people and commited numerous other unspeakable crimes besides) in the above slogan and try to justify how this is an acceptable, normal behaviour."

    (And as much as I dislike transphobes, that's like comparing an annoying mosquito to the Death Star, so kind of not on the same scale.)
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    Yes, it's just a silly inoffensive edgy shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Yes, it's just a silly inoffensive edgy shirt.
    "inoffensive"

    Lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Yes, it's just a silly inoffensive edgy shirt.
    No we must cancel her for it! /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    No we must cancel her for it! /s
    If it was only the shirt ? Absolutely not

    Add that to all the anti-"cis" and anti white men stuff from her twitter, and yeah it becomes a problem.

    Stop playing silly and try and pretend this is all about the shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    No we must cancel her for it! /s
    Because if you had a shirt ingame that said those instructions to say....people of a ethnic group - you think people would not react harshly if they saw you wearing it? The reality if folks can play it off as not being a big deal because they know folks would not do it and if they did then the full force of the internet would come down on them. To assume otherwise I feel would to be out of touch or very naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Because if you had a shirt ingame that said those instructions to say....people of a ethnic group - you think people would not react harshly if they saw you wearing it? The reality if folks can play it off as not being a big deal because they know folks would not do it and if they did then the full force of the internet would come down on them. To assume otherwise I feel would to be out of touch or very naive.
    Okay, but that's not what her shirt says, though. Her shirt is the equivalent of "eat the rich," or is that now bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Okay, but that's not what her shirt says, though. Her shirt is the equivalent of "eat the rich," or is that now bad?
    Because the rich are still human beings - they have just as much right to live as everyone else. Even the concept of "transphobia" does not immediately equal hatred; though it may be in vogue to assume such - a phobia is a irrational fear; should we also sacrifice all anthrophobes..to...satan specifically for some reason?

    Even if the shirt said "sacrafice all who hate to satan" I would still disagree with that; I generally oppose the death penalty in all forms; I do not believe in the notion of pre-crime so the notion of being ok with killing someone as a act of self-defense because you believe that they might someday do you harm leads to a pointless cycle - its like someone who is cis wearing a shirt saying likewise about cisphobes.

    Negative actions breed negative consequences. It sounds horrible when you consider the notion of trying to reach people might not work and is not without riskes; but if you are successful then the results are only positive; but harm will only breed more harm.
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    Trying to equate "Eat the rich" which is synonymous with anti-capitalist/ taking money away from rich people to sacrificing and killing people is fucking wild. -IQ take here.

    Last I check "eat the rich" didn't include killing people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Because the rich are still human beings - they have just as much right to live as everyone else. Even the concept of "transphobia" does not immediately equal hatred; though it may be in vogue to assume such - a phobia is a irrational fear; should we also sacrifice all anthrophobes..to...satan specifically for some reason?

    Even if the shirt said "sacrafice all who hate to satan" I would still disagree with that; I generally oppose the death penalty in all forms; I do not believe in the notion of pre-crime so the notion of being ok with killing someone as a act of self-defense because you believe that they might someday do you harm leads to a pointless cycle - its like someone who is cis wearing a shirt saying likewise about cisphobes.

    Negative actions breed negative consequences. It sounds horrible when you consider the notion of trying to reach people might not work and is not without riskes; but if you are successful then the results are only positive; but harm will only breed more harm.
    I dunno, all that just kinda comes off looking like "video games cause violence!" Unless you're transphobic, the shirt is just silly inoffensive edgy nonsense.

    Quote Originally Posted by LarsBehe View Post
    Trying to equate "Eat the rich" which is synonymous with anti-capitalist/ taking money away from rich people to sacrificing and killing people is fucking wild. -IQ take here.

    Last I check "eat the rich" didn't include killing people.
    Post on your main account.
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