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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon View Post
    It was almost like your memories are what make you you in the FF14 universe...
    Arguably the real one, too, if one is open to an uncomfortable thought or three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Arguably the real one, too, if one is open to an uncomfortable thought or three.
    It's a philosophical question about the value of punishment, almost. If someone commits a murder but then suffers some sort of memory loss, are they still guilty? Is it still right to punish them? Who's that punishment actually for if you do it; is it actually going to do anything for or about the person, or is it just so that onlookers can feel like justice was done? It throws the entire concept of retributive justice into question. It's a question that can only really exist in a fictional scenario, because that's where you can trust that they genuinely don't remember as opposed to faking it, but even then it requires you to buy it, and with Tsuyu I don't really think I did.

    My issue with that story was elsewhere, though; I spent the whole thing being annoyed they brought her back, because I thought she had a perfectly serviceable storyline and sendoff in 4.0, and I'm still not sure that the 4.x storyline really added anything to it outside of that specific question. In fairness, I think that question was one the game had to ask there, to start paving the way for the way the story would go in future expansions, but that wasn't really enough to save the story itself for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    It's a philosophical question about the value of punishment, almost. If someone commits a murder but then suffers some sort of memory loss, are they still guilty? Is it still right to punish them? Who's that punishment actually for if you do it; is it actually going to do anything for or about the person, or is it just so that onlookers can feel like justice was done? It throws the entire concept of retributive justice into question. It's a question that can only really exist in a fictional scenario, because that's where you can trust that they genuinely don't remember as opposed to faking it, but even then it requires you to buy it, and with Tsuyu I don't really think I did.

    My issue with that story was elsewhere, though; I spent the whole thing being annoyed they brought her back, because I thought she had a perfectly serviceable storyline and sendoff in 4.0, and I'm still not sure that the 4.x storyline really added anything to it outside of that specific question. In fairness, I think that question was one the game had to ask there, to start paving the way for the way the story would go in future expansions, but that wasn't really enough to save the story itself for me.
    Honestly I think it gave her a much more powerful send off. She got her revenge and the catharsis of it, while having the understanding that she's wronged far too many people to ever truly be excused. I like that it doesn't portray her revenge itself as bad, but also showed how it poisoned her view of her countrymen because she hadn't the means to truly strike at them.
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