JP: Yoshi P should step down, FF14 is a sinking ship, in response to interview

[Zeastria]

Why the MSQ quality is much lower in FFXIV (DT) :
Know that [Square Enix] and [Sweet Baby Inc] have joined hands.

I didnt know this prior to buying DT,
but it all makes 100% sense now why there is a drop in quality (MSQ).

I normally avoid games that has [Sweet Baby inc] in it..
because all the games they have touched
has extremely poor writing and
is filled with political propaganda.

[Slayer25c]

Sweet baby stink and corps had their hands in DT. Such a large drop in quality can only be attributed to a lack of funds and budget or outside pressure and interference.

Lmao u people always bringing up sweet baby move on I getting really tireing divinity all around u it not going anywhere

[Larirawiel]

I didn't say it's a sinking ship, just that it is bad.

As we can see from the graph, player numbers were steadily increasing throughout ShB's lifespan, reaching their peak with EW's launch. Since then numbers have been in decline, raising slightly during content drops only to dip back down right away.

A healthy game would be growing, like in ShB, not losing all hype immediately after an expansion launch.

"Sinking ship" is in the thread title so i used this term.

I also do not think, that the numbers or the DT narrative is good. But the situation is way not so bad as the thread starter suggests. The funny thing is, that Final Fantasy 14 carries the rest of SQEX. So Yoshi-P will propably never step down.



Cheers

[Willemdarke]

"Sinking ship" is in the thread title so i used this term.

I also do not think, that the numbers or the DT narrative is good. But the situation is way not so bad as the thread starter suggests. The funny thing is, that Final Fantasy 14 carries the rest of SQEX. So Yoshi-P will propably never step down.



Cheers

With this I entirely agree, both that Yoshi doesn't need to step down (instead focus more on this game rather than other projects his team is being forced into) and that FF14 is indeed SE's most profitable property.

[Carin-Eri]

Given SE track record with screw ups I would prefer Yoshida not to step down.

He is probably the last thing holding the most bullshit out of this game.

Besides… what then?

The writing showed that new people don’t automatically make good decisions.

So no he shouldn’t step down but he should finally start to really think about what he wants his game to be because I can’t imagine empty zones, mixed receptions, boring jobs and people more and more being ready to skip cutscenes are what he thinks an MMO should be.

Agreed.

He's not perfect and I'm not going to claim or argue that he is.

However, he does seem to be a great advocate for keeping certain elements generally favored by F2P game models away from the game, which is a positive in my view.

[AnimaAnimus]

As someone who was on this bandwagon for awhile and believed he should step down, I now think he isn't involved enough. During DT's and even EW'2 development Yoshida was busy working on other games and it is obvious he wasn't able to do all his normal things. He even said, like with the EW 24 man raid, that he was letting newer and less experienced ppl do and handle more, and their inexperience, while obvious with the way they crapped on the Twelve, was on full display in DT. I think he needs to get back to micromanaging his team like he did in 1.0, ARR and HW.

[Alice_Rivers]

On the face of it having your best people working multiple projects makes sense and in the short term it works. The problem is long term, it's better to keep the best people focused on what they're doing best and give them apprentices who can be assigned small projects and later moved to bigger ones as they improve but no modern company seems to understand this basic wisdom. "The speed of technological advancement isn't nearly as important as short term quarterly gains, can't this thing go any faster?" - Quark, ST: DS9.

[Voidmage]

No. Because it is normal and happened already in FF14 and it happens in other healthy games too. The ship would be sinking if the numbers would go far under the EW numbers.



Cheers

What I always wonder when I read this.
How would a different content approach actually look like in those charts?

For example let’s say we get relics or field content shortly after expansion launch.
Would the line be high or would there be a little drop but less strong than now?
Are most people just playing for the story or do they leave because there isn’t much at the start if you don’t raid.

Not saying it’s a sinking ship just curious how that would look like because I think they could do a little shake up in the formulae.

[Fatch38]

However, he does seem to be a great advocate for keeping certain elements generally favored by F2P game models away from the game, which is a positive in my view.

like having a cash shop or gacha lootboxes ? oh wait ...

[AnimaAnimus]

like having a cash shop or gacha lootboxes ? oh wait ...

We have gacha in XIV? And if you think the material containers or the Bozja boxes are gacha, having random rewards from an in-game earnable only item, is not the same thing as paying real world money for lootboxes, like ESO or Genshin.