Losing loot when INV is full.

[Elexia]

add ons are fine, and yes they are meant to make things easier to an extent

but at the point where it starts doing everything for oyu is when it crosses a line

Ontop of being redundant, may as well ask for an add-on that auto runs/walks for you since we're doubling up on the same features >.>

[Jinko]

Sort through what you don't need/want...ok, your loot list holds all your items you currently obtained, open it, click the item you don't want, hit discard.

Simple.

See this is where you inexperience of playing other games comes into question.

Most other games you click a dead monster and loot what you want and leave what you don't.

In this game you have no choice in the matter, you kill something and your inv gets filled up with crap, now I have to spend 4-5 minutes scanning over my inventory for random trash drops that I want to either sell or drop and lets be honest the process is not very user friendly.

It's why they are changing the UI in 2.0 adding bags and drag and drop which I have already mentioned.

I think the actual visual of seeing how full your inventory is a much needed one (I'm sure you will disagree though)

[TheVedis]

See this is where you inexperience of playing other games comes into question.

Most other games you click a dead monster and loot what you want and leave what you don't.

In this game you have no choice in the matter, you kill something and your inv gets filled up with crap, now I have to spend 4-5 minutes scanning over my inventory for random trash drops that I want to either sell or drop and lets be honest the process is not very user friendly.

It's why they are changing the UI in 2.0 adding bags and drag and drop which I have already mentioned.

I think the actual visual of seeing how full your inventory is a much needed one (I'm sure you will disagree though)

there is a VERY simple solution to this though

dont go out in the field when you know you will be wanting drops unless you have your inventory sorted to make sure you wont lose stuff

if you are going out farming with 190/200 thats your fault, not the games

if you go into a dungeon with 199/200, again your fault

[Elexia]

See this is where you inexperience of playing other games comes into question.

Sorry, not inexperienced. I just know the difference between needing a plugin that does something for me when I can already do something myself. For example Windower for FFXI added the ability to sort your inventory automatically, something SE added much much later.

That's when you want a plugin for something, they're designed to give functionality to a game that natively lacks it.

Most other games you click a dead monster and loot what you want and leave what you don't.

In this game, you go into your loot list and take/discard what you don't want. The sole purpose of this is for the very reason some people have full inventories and it gives you ample time (unless you zone out) to get your inventory together. It's essentially the same thing.

[Onidemon]

Sort through what you don't need/want...ok, your loot list holds all your items you currently obtained, open it, click the item you don't want, hit discard.

Simple.

Point of addons, make things easier/faster/better. Simple right?

[Dragon]

You must have failed math.

Talking in the mirror again? The only math class I ever failed was Intermediate Algebra, and even that was due to attendance.

Yes, make thing more convenient is not smart, pple like you are holding back human evolution.

Funny, because I'm a transhumanist singularitarian.

I laughed, you really think the casual's would stick around if that happened to them.

I don't care what those who aren't willing to stick around when the next great WoW clone comes around want.

If you ask Elexia, Dragon and Molly_Millions, we don't need casuals. We need forced grouping, extreamly hard, time consuming and bland content in order to make this game a success. Hell we don't even need to attract any new players. As per them S-E will be rolling cash just with the XI fan base, which are already paying S-E btw.....

Strawman arguments.

1. We're not necessarily for forced grouping.
2. We're not necessarily for extremely hard or time-consuming content.
3. Not everything you support is entertaining.

But hey, we do want to attract the kinda player that likes sticking around at the end of the day, because we understand casual players are nothing more than flakes at the end of the day.

[Jinko]

there is a VERY simple solution to this though

dont go out in the field when you know you will be wanting drops unless you have your inventory sorted to make sure you wont lose stuff

if you are going out farming with 190/200 thats your fault, not the games

My inventory can become full just from doing 8 leves.

if you go into a dungeon with 199/200, again your fault

I agree, I personally always check when loot drops in a dungeon, but not everyone will remember to do so or remember to empty their inventory before going into a dungeon.

The thing is that you are looking at this back to front.

If we weren't forced to pick up every insignificant item then we wouldn't need to check our inventory so often.

I'm pretty sure that if this game had been developer with Yoshi from the start we would be looking at dead monsters that required looting.

[TheVedis]

Point of addons, make things easier/faster/better. Simple right?

as long as it doesnt play the game for you, yes

how an add on will "manage" your inventory for you can be pretty shady

about the only thing an add on can do that may not be illegal would be give you a warning

anything else borders on botting and illegal use of programs(if it plays for you that is, considering thats what everything else would classify as at that point)

[TheVedis]

My inventory can become full just from doing 8 leves.



I agree, I personally always check when loot drops in a dungeon, but not everyone will remember to do so or remember to empty their inventory before going into a dungeon.

The thing is that you are looking at this back to front.

If we weren't forced to pick up every insignificant item then we wouldn't need to check our inventory so often.

I'm pretty sure that if this game had been developer with Yoshi from the start we would be looking at dead monsters that required looting.

if your out doing leves chances are the drops are not your primary concern anyway...

i know how that goes i do them still too


and in the end, "those who dont remember to do so" can NOT blame the game, they did not remember, the game didnt prevent them from doing it, they did it

thats what alot of this comes down to

thats like saying its the games fault that you missed a behest cuz you were in the bathroom for a minute too long because you didnt remember to join behest before you went



edit: also in regards to leves, we have vendors at pretty much all camps now for that specific reason you know

[Elexia]

I think I see where the disconnect is, due to the interface lag people simply never bothered with the lootlist function lol, it pretty much does what a plugin would do the only difference is it won't be automated (not even Blizzard allows all automation plugins.)