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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    I thought the issue with Wuk was she's an overbearing, inconsistent character with no notable arc to speak of, and despite this takes up 95% of the screentime.

    Dawntrail's writing is Juvenile, thats the issue.
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    Hisato Yoshida
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    I really hope this is a PR move. Call it copium. I'll wait to see what the patches look like before making a full on decision to buy another expansion.
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    Tizzy Tormentor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Dawntrail's writing is Juvenile, thats the issue.
    Remember when Gulool Ja Ja solved decades of generational hatred and conflict with tacos? Or how we fix the decades of resentment and mistrust with the residents of Mamook in an afternoon by just chatting with them? Expect more of this in the future.
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    Boone Steakdriven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor View Post
    Remember when Gulool Ja Ja solved decades of generational hatred and conflict with tacos? Or how we fix the decades of resentment and mistrust with the residents of Mamook in an afternoon by just chatting with them? Expect more of this in the future.
    As much as I would love to meme on the power of tacos, yes, this really was dumb.
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    Mainasu Kurohara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor View Post
    Remember when Gulool Ja Ja solved decades of generational hatred and conflict with tacos? Or how we fix the decades of resentment and mistrust with the residents of Mamook in an afternoon by just chatting with them? Expect more of this in the future.
    This scares me greatly. This is what people mean when they say the writing has gotten so.. juvenile and simplistic. You can have as many dead baby caves as you want, if you write the world in a nonsensical way it doesn't make it more mature.

    Could you imagine Wuk Lamat talking to Yotsuyu or Fordola? It's hard to even imagine these characters are from the same game.
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainasu View Post
    This scares me greatly. This is what people mean when they say the writing has gotten so.. juvenile and simplistic. You can have as many dead baby caves as you want, if you write the world in a nonsensical way it doesn't make it more mature.

    Could you imagine Wuk Lamat talking to Yotsuyu or Fordola? It's hard to even imagine these characters are from the same game.
    The idea of her trying to get Yotsuyu to reconcile with Doma because she "understands the pain of family hurting you" or whatever is hilarious and would probably result in one of her eyes getting stabbed out with a pipe.
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    Mainasu Kurohara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The idea of her trying to get Yotsuyu to reconcile with Doma because she "understands the pain of family hurting you" or whatever is hilarious and would probably result in one of her eyes getting stabbed out with a pipe.
    I would have liked to have her be challenged with something like that, hearing something so horrible like what happened with Yotsuyu just shattering her worldview. It doesn't mean she has to completely change right there, but it should teach her you can't just TELL people to be peaceful and happy because you love peace and happiness, and you certainly can't tell them to just rely on the love of family.. because many aren't fortunate enough to have that be a comfort.

    Instead, the writers have made Tural (and Alexandria) a land of simple people with simple problems and simple solutions. It's the antithesis to what made a lot of the world building and tone of the MSQ so compelling, because it asks that the player DOESN'T think about it too much.

    Again, it's hard to not dwell on this stuff when you hear Yoshi's response to the MSQ's reception and it's so disconnected from what the actual issues with the writing are. It doesn't inspire a lot of confidence going forward when he talks like a boss who intentionally will twist your question into something you didn't ask. I just don't believe the language barrier is causing that much of a rift, when a lot of Japanese players have the same concerns as us.
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    Zexin Hiruzagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainasu View Post
    This scares me greatly. This is what people mean when they say the writing has gotten so.. juvenile and simplistic. You can have as many dead baby caves as you want, if you write the world in a nonsensical way it doesn't make it more mature.

    Could you imagine Wuk Lamat talking to Yotsuyu or Fordola? It's hard to even imagine these characters are from the same game.
    "sᴜʏᴜᴜᴜᴜ, ʟɪsᴛᴇɴ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴇ!"
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    Dawntrail did you dirty girl, it did you dirty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZXN View Post
    "sᴜʏᴜᴜᴜᴜ, ʟɪsᴛᴇɴ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴇ!"
    "Wow you were horribly abused by your family for your whole childhood? Cowabummer Tsuyu, but your moping is ruining my appetite! Anyways let's go have some skibidi pibil I'm starving"
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    Formerly Baby Chuck

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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainasu View Post
    This scares me greatly. This is what people mean when they say the writing has gotten so.. juvenile and simplistic. You can have as many dead baby caves as you want, if you write the world in a nonsensical way it doesn't make it more mature.

    Could you imagine Wuk Lamat talking to Yotsuyu or Fordola? It's hard to even imagine these characters are from the same game.
    I think having her be such a focus and someone in an influential position is a problem, but she's a lot like Emmanellain so we've already seen wildly different types of characters in the game. I couldn't see him talking to Yotsuyu or Fordola either. But it's his more responsible brother that has the position of influence, not him.
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