Revelations from Dawntrail (7.0)

[Lyth]

Perhaps you don't need to be an Ascian to know what shard Living Memory is on. Sometimes, the simplest answer is the correct one.

It's on the ninth.

[Turnintino]

I don't know if I'd call it the simplest answer, but it's an answer lol.

[TheRealQuah]

I don't know if I'd call it the simplest answer, but it's an answer lol.

It's themed on FF9, of course it's the 9th.

Also Yoshi-P said it was.

Simple enough?

[Cleretic]

I don't know if I'd call it the simplest answer, but it's an answer lol.

It's also literally (one of) the simplest answers, because the Ninth is still there, meaning that time travel was not involved like some people randomly asserted it must have been.

[Turnintino]

It's also literally (one of) the simplest answers, because the Ninth is still there, meaning that time travel was not involved like some people randomly asserted it must have been.

I agree that it's one of, certainly. This isn't to say that I think the other candidates were simpler, just that I think they were all on equal standing lol.

It's themed on FF9, of course it's the 9th.

Also Yoshi-P said it was.

Simple enough?

I can appreciate the boring symmetry.

[Astronema]

That interview is such a fail. I don't want to go back to and become a Shogun. I want to move on to better reflections or other hidden places on the source.

[Iscah]

That interview is such a fail. I don't want to go back to and become a Shogun. I want to move on to better reflections or other hidden places on the source.

Yeah, I'm really not keen (like, actively against) both the prospects he's touting as big and exciting possibilities.

Fighting to claim control of a country sounds incredibly un-WoL-ish (and yes we kind of did it already with the Xaela and I didn't like it there either) and I'm additionally not really interested in a second fantasy Japan expansion when we've rushed through an entire double-continent in four zones.

And "cross into an alternate timeline where the events in Ancient times played out differently" sounds like they're disrupting everything for pure shock value and failing to grasp that certain characters get less interesting the more they are used.

[Carin-Eri]

Yeah, I'm really not keen (like, actively against) both the prospects he's touting as big and exciting possibilities.

Fighting to claim control of a country sounds incredibly un-WoL-ish (and yes we kind of did it already with the Xaela and I didn't like it there either) and I'm additionally not really interested in a second fantasy Japan expansion when we've rushed through an entire double-continent in four zones.

And "cross into an alternate timeline where the events in Ancient times played out differently" sounds like they're disrupting everything for pure shock value and failing to grasp that certain characters get less interesting the more they are used.

Very much agree.

I'm not a fan of alternate timeline stories. The entertainment value in these stories comes from the fact that they're set in an alternate universe or alternate timeline where the writers can do anything they want to create excitement and suspense, and create the illusion that big stuff is really happening (like killing off a main character for example). Sadly, these stories pretty much have to involve a "Reset Button" of some sort in the end. When it comes to alt-universes the writers have no obligation to keep everything the same and don't have any long-term consequences to deal with if they blow everything up. So they do. And therefore it's more exciting. Even though in the end nothing really happened to the main characters at all and you just end up back to where you started.

[Cleretic]

I don't get the idea that those suggestions were actually things on the agenda, and were more 'here's an idea of the sorts of things we could do in the future given how open the field is now'. Out of all of them, 'WoL going shogun in Hingashi' sounds the most plausible just because it's really specific; the others I could imagine him just rattling off from the top of his head, but that one sounds like an idea that's actually been kicked around to some degree.

I could see that one working, but I think that's mostly because I'm picturing the original Nioh but with a more charismatic protagonist; like yeah, we've turned up to this civil war and we're probably gonna be in those history books, but we're mostly there dealing with a 'Scion-scale problem' that happens to intersect. It doesn't feel like enough story for a FFXIV expansion, but it's not a story pitch I'd reject on principle like 'guess what it's More Ancient Time'. (And yes, I am calling the literally silent WoL more charismatic than William Adams in Nioh; they set that bar stunningly low.)

[Fenral]

And "cross into an alternate timeline where the events in Ancient times played out differently" sounds like they're disrupting everything for pure shock value and failing to grasp that certain characters get less interesting the more they are used.

This actually happened in FFXI, though in-context it was treated more like a shard (Abyssea) rather than full-blown multiverse shenanigans. I wonder if the team kicked around the possibility of using the 8UE timeline for an Abyssea-type story at some point. That could work as a relic zone like Eureka or Bozja, I guess. The layouts of Ul'dah and Limsa would make for fun Dynamis (not that one) zones.