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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGJesuis66 View Post
    THE MENTAL GYMNASTICS, OMFG.

    The Sundered is now the same as the Endless. Wow. That's baffling.
    Absolutely baffling. People then want to blame the writers because of their rationalizations, which make absolutely no sense. Mmk.

    Swear to god, SE mistake with the FFXIV storyline was making the WoL be Azem and this whole debacle about the Ancients, it backfired so hard to the point of people genuine believe the Ancients are right and they just fully embrace all the twisted logic from them in order to uphold arguments to future story points. Yeesh.
    I mean they aren’t fully 100 % sundered but if you go by how they react and act. They feel, think, hear, love and have the memories when they were alive. Effectively they do live on burrowed stolen human soul energy but they are still capable of emotions and even find long lost family member, friends or even lovers and partners (or your own child after you gave it into the care of a random person from the other side of a portal) lost from before death and maybe even unfair situations like a deadly illness in the childhood ripping apart people that love each other.

    The line between uncaring machine gif and actual human emotions is pretty narrow in this case.

    And I can understand both sides in this debate because even the writers do try to play both sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    I mean they aren’t fully 100 % sundered but if you go by how they react and act. They feel, think, hear, love and have the memories when they were alive. Effectively they do live on burrowed stolen human soul energy but they are still capable of emotions and even find long lost family member, friends or even lovers and partners (or your own child after you gave it into the care of a random person from the other side of a portal) lost from before death and maybe even unfair situations like a deadly illness in the childhood ripping apart people that love each other.

    The line between uncaring machine gif and actual human emotions is pretty narrow in this case.

    And I can understand both sides in this debate because even the writers do try to play both sites.
    Yes. Ghosts with 'unfinished business'.
    They are not people, they were people. Therefore, they are not Sundered. At best, if they lived in our world, they would be considered an Ashkin.
    Like many ghosts we see in the world and kill without hesitation.
    That's the whole point, they are not alive, it isn't a moral debate about 'what is alive and what isn't', it is almost set in stone that none of those people are alive.
    We are just assisting them to have a peaceful passing, that's all. Not, murdering them, as many try to claim.
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