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    BabyYoda's Avatar
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    Rui Aii
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    Okay... so... to be sure I understand.

    I spam Miasma to get poison stack which my fairy can consume for healing...
    I can consume 9 stacks, so 22.5s worth of dps, to summon Seraph.

    How is your healing while the boss isn't here? Because that is something that happens quite a lot in ultimate and those fight are definitely the place where job balance will be the most important.

    And before people talk about kardia... No kardia while the boss isn't here isn't an issue since there's no AA to heal.
    No seraph / other important AoE healing abilities is a much bigger deal.
    As he mentioned

    You can cast all kind of healing skills but it will cost more MP and cd will be longer

    I think this is a good tradeoff for job designed around that
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    I think the kit is too much heavy on 1 system

    We could reduce the heavy focus on 1 bar to multiple bars would be better
    But overall I think Miasma could be back
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BabyYoda View Post
    As he mentioned

    You can cast all kind of healing skills but it will cost more MP and cd will be longer

    I think this is a good tradeoff for job designed around that
    MMM i rechecked and all I see are our current spells with "consumes x numbers of stacks". I don't see any CD reduction anywhere.
    At 3 stacks you get a healing buff
    At 6 stacks you get a damage buff
    At 9 stacks you can summon an extra fairy.

    The issue is that everything you do litterally reduces your damage. Every ogcd and even gcd.
    We know from experience that any option between DPS and healing results in DPS being favored unless absolutely necessary.

    I understand people aren't particularly happy with the current scholar and everyone feel they can do a better design by thinking for a whole 5minutes but men just ponder for more than 5min and try to think how really, THAT would work out at every level of play.

    It's litterally current SCH with
    - longer CD
    - restriction on ogcd usage through poison stack consumption
    - the healer rewarded for litterally not healing as every single healing action reduces the poison stack.
    - the only healer which would loose a whooping 300potency DoT if it stops dpsing for 6s. (very casual friendly I'm gonna say).
    - Huge DPS loss everytime the boss leaves, even for a mehr 6s.

    Since every healing skill are tied to a DPS counterpart, it means that this would heal only if absolutely necessary, making it by far the worst co-healer in existence.
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    MMM i rechecked and all I see are our current spells with "consumes x numbers of stacks". I don't see any CD reduction anywhere.
    At 3 stacks you get a healing buff
    At 6 stacks you get a damage buff
    At 9 stacks you can summon an extra fairy.

    The issue is that everything you do litterally reduces your damage. Every ogcd and even gcd.
    We know from experience that any option between DPS and healing results in DPS being favored unless absolutely necessary.

    I understand people aren't particularly happy with the current scholar and everyone feel they can do a better design by thinking for a whole 5minutes but men just ponder for more than 5min and try to think how really, THAT would work out at every level of play.

    It's litterally current SCH with
    - longer CD
    - restriction on ogcd usage through poison stack consumption
    - the healer rewarded for litterally not healing as every single healing action reduces the poison stack.
    - the only healer which would loose a whooping 300potency DoT if it stops dpsing for 6s. (very casual friendly I'm gonna say).
    - Huge DPS loss everytime the boss leaves, even for a mehr 6s.

    Since every healing skill are tied to a DPS counterpart, it means that this would heal only if absolutely necessary, making it by far the worst co-healer in existence.
    I am with the ocean that healers must stay healers and have little to manage other than party hp..
    but how that can be needs to be special..
    as I mentioned that scholar must focus being a healer with less DPS but their healing depends on DPS.

    all that assuming coming content will be harder and it require more healing and shielding.

    regarding damage is low.. sorry teacher I didn't bring my calculator but from what I know numbers can be changed no?

    "Huge DPS loss everytime the boss leaves, even for a mehr 6s."
    6 second is enough for people to recharge the stacks in movement phases.


    scholar is the easiest and most effective healer in the game
    if you think current scholar is hard to manage you are just need to stop playing summoner and play harder job.
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