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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    I actually love how Square Enix took the criticism people had of Zenos and actually turned that into sort of a character arc for him - where he learns that while the WoL is his world, he is not the WoL's, and has to come to terms with it. It was actually made quite nicely, and I loved the finale of it all. In the end, Zenos was a good antagonist I find.
    I agree with you. I'm not a fan of Alisaie, but I loved when she drove a stake through his heart verbally, and you could tell it stuck with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    I actually love how Square Enix took the criticism people had of Zenos and actually turned that into sort of a character arc for him - where he learns that while the WoL is his world, he is not the WoL's, and has to come to terms with it. It was actually made quite nicely, and I loved the finale of it all. In the end, Zenos was a good antagonist I find.
    I'll admit I liked his character from the start. I loved that he beat the WoL to a pulp because at that point we just kept winning because of the plot armor of the blessing of light (and I mean, I get it, we are the player, we can't really lose), and it was nice to be kicked down a few notches, showed that the WoL while OP, is not infallible.

    When it came EW, his arch was an improvement of something I like... like adding chocolate syrup on top of dulce de leche icecream and the fact that the WoL didn't end up completely unscathed, even if we had just defeated despair was just such a perfect way to close that chapter.

    And now, the one that will follow us like a very crappy Majima screaming in lower case and hiding in a garbage bin is... Poochie...

    To call that a downgrade it's underselling it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Opinions are wonderful things, aren't they? Personally, the clear and easy winner of that spot for me is Zenos. I always saw him as disappointingly one-dimensional and no growth. On the other hand, I enjoyed the journey with Wuk Lumat and her as a character.



    Personally, I hope she's still a major part of the story throughout the DT patches. Once we hit the next expansion, my guess is she'll take a back seat like Aymeric, Lyse, Raubahn, etc. who were all major players for one specific installment, and then background characters doing their own thing afterward.
    At least Zenos is able to walk by HIS OWN LEG.. without the need for us to sooth him to do so
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    I actually love how Square Enix took the criticism people had of Zenos and actually turned that into sort of a character arc for him - where he learns that while the WoL is his world, he is not the WoL's, and has to come to terms with it. It was actually made quite nicely, and I loved the finale of it all. In the end, Zenos was a good antagonist I find.
    Agreed. When he breathed his last, I said: "rest well frenemy". He was a worthy nemesis. He deserved his end for his crimes but I also respected him on some level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    I'll admit I liked his character from the start. I loved that he beat the WoL to a pulp because at that point we just kept winning because of the plot armor of the blessing of light (and I mean, I get it, we are the player, we can't really lose), and it was nice to be kicked down a few notches, showed that the WoL while OP, is not infallible.

    When it came EW, his arch was an improvement of something I like... like adding chocolate syrup on top of dulce de leche icecream and the fact that the WoL didn't end up completely unscathed, even if we had just defeated despair was just such a perfect way to close that chapter.

    And now, the one that will follow us like a very crappy Majima screaming in lower case and hiding in a garbage bin is... Poochie...

    To call that a downgrade it's underselling it.
    *Whispers*

    She's a super primal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaskaleh View Post
    *Whispers*

    She's a super primal
    I'd be fine with that. The WoL would get to do what they do best when it comes to primals. Dramatically punches fist into palm
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    Last edited by Xylira; 08-27-2024 at 12:12 AM.

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    Is the sky falling again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuwafuwaMii View Post
    Is the sky falling again?
    No, it's just that annoying cat breaking through reality to swoop in and steal the spotlight again.
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    Wuk lamat was an unwanted unlikable political statement that ruined what could have been a great xpac. Everything about dt is awesome except the story because of politics. Noone likes this, Noone wants this and there's no cope or excuse. This is on squares shoulders and i hope more people voice their anger about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyYoda View Post
    For real.. Who ask for this character?
    It doesn't really represent peace but foolishness and annoyingness nothing else

    Wuk lamat can't be saved.. she doesn't have the capability to be saved at least 2 expansions after DT.

    I don't want to see her again please get rid of her
    shes literally just in the game to make fem hroths a thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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