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  1. #11
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    Lala Felon
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    Hopefully 7.1 will be Krile waking us from a deep sleep, telling us we were having a bad nightmare about something named Wuk. (Rhymes with duck and firetruck)

    As the writer's Furry-OC she is not salvageable. Nor is the Swiss-cheese(tm) like (c)Disney story written for four year olds.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 08-26-2024 at 12:55 PM.

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    Astronema Borealis
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    Into the sarlac pit with her.
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coratanni View Post
    The worst character in the entire FFXIV story and it's not even close.
    Opinions are wonderful things, aren't they? Personally, the clear and easy winner of that spot for me is Zenos. I always saw him as disappointingly one-dimensional and no growth. On the other hand, I enjoyed the journey with Wuk Lumat and her as a character.

    I don't want to see her again please get rid of her
    Personally, I hope she's still a major part of the story throughout the DT patches. Once we hit the next expansion, my guess is she'll take a back seat like Aymeric, Lyse, Raubahn, etc. who were all major players for one specific installment, and then background characters doing their own thing afterward.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xylira View Post
    She's not good enough of a character to take the spotlight of an entire expansion, is my main criticism. As a side character in small doses her naive buffoonery would be tolerable, particularly if she occasionally felt the consequences of her nonsense. But to not only shove the WoL aside as the main character, but also effortlessly upstage them during the final trial fight was just way too much. She goes from incompetent and somewhat inept, to more powerful than the WoL out of seemingly nowhere, and it feels so incredibly unearned.

    Honestly, the entire expansion would have been far better served if Wuk Lamat was sidelined halfway through the story after the challenge ended, and the WoL with the help of some of the scions handled the whole Alexandria arc without Wuk around.
    One simple change for DT that would have made it all worth it: Give us Emmet Selch as our traveling companion through it all and I would have been content.

    Just imagining him constantly taking shots at Wuk is enough to bring a smile to my face while typing this. I can just imagine all of his snarky comments…

    This is what was missing, somebody to balance Wuk in the story.
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    I thought lyse was the worst character until DT

    How can you make character this annoying
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Opinions are wonderful things, aren't they? Personally, the clear and easy winner of that spot for me is Zenos. I always saw him as disappointingly one-dimensional and no growth. On the other hand, I enjoyed the journey with Wuk Lumat and her as a character.



    Personally, I hope she's still a major part of the story throughout the DT patches. Once we hit the next expansion, my guess is she'll take a back seat like Aymeric, Lyse, Raubahn, etc. who were all major players for one specific installment, and then background characters doing their own thing afterward.
    Except unlike her, he has failed, has learned as a character, and admitted his own failings. And he wasn't forced down our throats 139 times in an expansion. Hell he wasn't forced down our throats 139 times in TWO expansions.
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    Vera Nova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coratanni View Post
    Except unlike her, he has failed, has learned as a character, and admitted his own failings. And he wasn't forced down our throats 139 times in an expansion. Hell he wasn't forced down our throats 139 times in TWO expansions.
    Funny enough, he was even scarce in his OWN expansion. Fordola and Yotsuyu took most of the 'spotlight'.
    As someone who loves him I know he's a divisive character, but I feel like the hate is undeserved and honestly wild to think that he's 'worse' than Wuk, who needs constant babysitting and pats on the back, all around incompetent but feels entitled to the throne I guess? I mean at least Zenos had the strength to get shit done, at least I can admire that.

    I never wanted an expansion where I babysit an overgrown child and I just see the world through the lens of something so...insufferable. I wouldn't mind her in small doses, but I can't get away from her. I want to talk to other characters but it's like 99% is Wuk??? Let me BREATHE. And maybe hire some babysitter or something, if I squint really hard I might see a glimmer of character development (so far) but then I realize it's a trick of the light.

    I'm like what? 25% through the MSQ and I'd rather sit through ARR than this. The environments are pretty, but I'm literally not motivated to go anywhere because it's TALK TO WUK simulator. I'm dying of boredom.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    Funny enough, he was even scarce in his OWN expansion. Fordola and Yotsuyu took most of the 'spotlight'.
    As someone who loves him I know he's a divisive character, but I feel like the hate is undeserved and honestly wild to think that he's 'worse' than Wuk, who needs constant babysitting and pats on the back, all around incompetent but feels entitled to the throne I guess? I mean at least Zenos had the strength to get shit done, at least I can admire that.

    I never wanted an expansion where I babysit an overgrown child and I just see the world through the lens of something so...insufferable. I wouldn't mind her in small doses, but I can't get away from her. I want to talk to other characters but it's like 99% is Wuk??? Let me BREATHE. And maybe hire some babysitter or something, if I squint really hard I might see a glimmer of character development (so far) but then I realize it's a trick of the light.

    I'm like what? 25% through the MSQ and I'd rather sit through ARR than this. The environments are pretty, but I'm literally not motivated to go anywhere because it's TALK TO WUK simulator. I'm dying of boredom.
    This post would get a big heart from me if I could.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xylira View Post
    She's not good enough of a character to take the spotlight of an entire expansion, is my main criticism. As a side character in small doses her naive buffoonery would be tolerable, particularly if she occasionally felt the consequences of her nonsense. But to not only shove the WoL aside as the main character, but also effortlessly upstage them during the final trial fight was just way too much. She goes from incompetent and somewhat inept, to more powerful than the WoL out of seemingly nowhere, and it feels so incredibly unearned.

    Honestly, the entire expansion would have been far better served if Wuk Lamat was sidelined halfway through the story after the challenge ended, and the WoL with the help of some of the scions handled the whole Alexandria arc without Wuk around.
    Said it more loud let's see if the devs listen to the fucking nonsense they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coratanni View Post
    Except unlike her, he has failed, has learned as a character, and admitted his own failings. And he wasn't forced down our throats 139 times in an expansion. Hell he wasn't forced down our throats 139 times in TWO expansions.
    I actually love how Square Enix took the criticism people had of Zenos and actually turned that into sort of a character arc for him - where he learns that while the WoL is his world, he is not the WoL's, and has to come to terms with it. It was actually made quite nicely, and I loved the finale of it all. In the end, Zenos was a good antagonist I find.
    (17)
    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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