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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
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    I agree, but what i don't understand is, all of your answer are about "whm is *still*".

    Yet, apparently everything was fine in 6.0 since AST was the least played job. So if WHM *still* has the same issue as 6.0, why is it a problem now and not before?

    i don't really see why you'd consider WHM to be lacking a niche... Instant gcd heal dps neutral, lilly basically, sounds like a good niche. We agree "pure overpowered raw healing" wouldn't be a good niche as its biggest weakness is the lack of mitigation.... What would you like it to be? I find lillies (dps neutral healing) to be a decent niche.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    I agree, but what i don't understand is, all of your answer are about "whm is *still*".

    Yet, apparently everything was fine in 6.0 since AST was the least played job. So if WHM *still* has the same issue as 6.0, why is it a problem now and not before?

    i don't really see why you'd consider WHM to be lacking a niche... Instant gcd heal dps neutral, lilly basically, sounds like a good niche. We agree "pure overpowered raw healing" wouldn't be a good niche as its biggest weakness is the lack of mitigation.... What would you like it to be? I find lillies (dps neutral healing) to be a decent niche.
    It was a problem in 6.0, WHM has been in this weird “void” of a niche since they fixed the horrid day one balancing of 5.0 SCH and AST, arguably it was even worse in the early patches of 6.0 than it is now because it didn’t even have neutral lilys. AST wasn’t well played in 6.0 because people didn’t like getting carpal tunnel at 25 playing a job for a 5% damage bonus

    “Healing” isn’t a niche, all the healers can heal upfront, there is no benefit to having your niche be “I can heal RIGHT NOW” when we know exactly when the damage comes out anyway

    I haven’t thought much about an actual niche for WHM since it lost its niche in 5.0. Before that WHM was the dominant AOE healing as SCH struggled in AOE and WST was more like an “off healer”. Maybe it’s a healer who could gain more benefits the less overhealing it does. That would create interesting tension with lily’s which you have to spend because they are a DPS gain, trying to avoid overhealing while still spending all your lily’s sounds interesting to me but I’ve also put almost no proper thought into this so that’s just a spitball
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess