Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[JaydeDancer]

Hi,

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but since DT my character's smile has looked off. I went through the facial emotes this evening, and it appears that it is the /simper facial expression that looks weird now.

Here are some examples of her smile [/simper] pre-DT:





In these images her smile seems genuine. She seems naturally happy.

But this is her smile post-DT:



Now it just looks off to me. Like only the corners of her mouth are moving up, and not the middle of her mouth. Now her mouth also looks smaller when she smiles than it did pre-DT.

This is the closest picture I could find from my pre-DT pictures to the post-DT picture above:



I don't know if maybe it is the lighting, or the fact that extra "bones" were added to the mouth for DT and maybe those extra bones don't move when she simpers (because they didn't exist before) so now the smile looks weird? I also realize that it is hard to tell from my pictures that something is different. I wish I knew exactly what it was so that I could provide suggestions on how it might be fixed. But, sadly, all I can say is that her smile now looks weird and I don't like it anymore.

Please note that I made 0 changes to Jayde in the character creator after DT. She is using the exact same face, eyes, mouth, nose, eyebrows, chin, bust, voice, and tail that she was using pre-DT.

Thank you for allowing us to provide feedback to you regarding this. It means a lot.

[Luluna]

I used to change a lot because of 1.0 and my character ported badly, so then I fell in love with my Midlander and then the graphical update ruined their faces. This past month I have been cat, hyur, cat hyur!

I finally have managed to fix my character and I am hoping that if there are any changes it is to the Midlander mouths and the baggy eyes on face 1. I also do not like the nose on face 1 and 2 anymore so lets hope it is all taken into account. I feel for everyone who feels the same.

I will have funded the next expac in fantasia sales at this rate lol >.<

[Iscah]

A question for people who use the eyeshadow-facepaint for their character: has it always added a small amount of colour to the lower eyelid or is that another weird outcome of the update?

My Viera character uses a light amount of dark red eyeshadow on the inner part of the eyelid (its face-shaping rather than makeup) and I've realised it is also colouring the lower eyelid and making the eyes look slightly bloodshot, which I have never noticed before, so there has been a shift in either the placement or the intensity of it or both.

I definitely think facepaint has been altered to have more vivid colours. It's particularly noticable on my Au Ra because I picked the colour to be a similar light brown to his scales, but now it has more of an orange tone to it. (And the scales may have shifted in a different direction, which isn't helping either.)

[Rueby]

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I feel alot of the expression rigging or whatever is done based on emojis and not actual people....It's funny how the outdated 'animations' feel more alive/genuine than whatever this uncanny valley is.

I see it too on my Miqo'te, and literally every other character. Cutscenes feel abit terrifying as a result too...

[noumen0nn]

A question for people who use the eyeshadow-facepaint for their character: has it always added a small amount of colour to the lower eyelid or is that another weird outcome of the update?

My Viera character uses a light amount of dark red eyeshadow on the inner part of the eyelid (its face-shaping rather than makeup) and I've realised it is also colouring the lower eyelid and making the eyes look slightly bloodshot, which I have never noticed before, so there has been a shift in either the placement or the intensity of it or both.

I definitely think facepaint has been altered to have more vivid colours. It's particularly noticable on my Au Ra because I picked the colour to be a similar light brown to his scales, but now it has more of an orange tone to it. (And the scales may have shifted in a different direction, which isn't helping either.)

Could you take a screenshot of what you mean? I tried replicating it in the benchmark and character creator but I'm not sure what to look for exactly

[Astronis]

A question for people who use the eyeshadow-facepaint for their character: has it always added a small amount of colour to the lower eyelid or is that another weird outcome of the update?

My Viera character uses a light amount of dark red eyeshadow on the inner part of the eyelid (its face-shaping rather than makeup) and I've realised it is also colouring the lower eyelid and making the eyes look slightly bloodshot, which I have never noticed before, so there has been a shift in either the placement or the intensity of it or both.

I definitely think facepaint has been altered to have more vivid colours. It's particularly noticable on my Au Ra because I picked the colour to be a similar light brown to his scales, but now it has more of an orange tone to it. (And the scales may have shifted in a different direction, which isn't helping either.)

I use one of the eyeshadow facepaints and as far as I can remember, yes, it always added a little on the lower eyelid as well as the upper.

[Louhikko]

I used to change a lot because of 1.0 and my character ported badly, so then I fell in love with my Midlander and then the graphical update ruined their faces. This past month I have been cat, hyur, cat hyur!

I finally have managed to fix my character and I am hoping that if there are any changes it is to the Midlander mouths and the baggy eyes on face 1. I also do not like the nose on face 1 and 2 anymore so lets hope it is all taken into account. I feel for everyone who feels the same.

I will have funded the next expac in fantasia sales at this rate lol >.<

I've been playing aura since the update for the same reason. I know a lot of people here are very passionate about the details of the faces but personally I'm not really that bothered over small changes like mouth or eye curve being slightly different shape, however I do hate how the new hyur faces (especially my face 1 girlies) looks really "puffy" as if she's having a constant allergic reaction especially under certain lighting conditions. It's not just the puffy eyelids but the weird deep shadow under the eyes and across the nose and how the nose looks larger due to the bridge being so much thinner.

My hyur went from looking like a healthy gal in her early twenties to a 35 year old smoker with a severe allergies.

[Kaziek]

I've been playing aura since the update for the same reason. I know a lot of people here are very passionate about the details of the faces but personally I'm not really that bothered over small changes like mouth or eye curve being slightly different shape, however I do hate how the new hyur faces (especially my face 1 girlies) looks really "puffy" as if she's having a constant allergic reaction especially under certain lighting conditions. It's not just the puffy eyelids but the weird deep shadow under the eyes and across the nose and how the nose looks larger due to the bridge being so much thinner.

My hyur went from looking like a healthy gal in her early twenties to a 35 year old smoker with a severe allergies.

Personally I think they look too young now, with so many of their features being rounded out and softened. I definitely agree with the puffiness though. Really not the kind of thing you expect when it comes to a graphical update.

[Einnecy]

Personally I think they look too young now, with so many of their features being rounded out and softened.

Seconding this. I chose face 4 for my midlander♀ strictly because it's the only noticeably mature face and I am very disappointed with how soft it looks now.



My biggest peeve when it comes to midlander♀ faces might be what they have done to the creases (or lack thereof) under the eyes. Faces that have never had clear bags under their eyes have them now, and the one face that was supposed to have a noticeable crease has had it softened to the point you don't see it anymore.

These are all images taken after DT's launch:

Comparison images taken from benchmarks (DT v1.1 and EW):


The face looks softer, the pupils are (once more) larger, the eyelashes are longer. She looks younger.

I miss her

[Louhikko]

Personally I think they look too young now, with so many of their features being rounded out and softened. I definitely agree with the puffiness though. Really not the kind of thing you expect when it comes to a graphical update.

I think the funny thing is that it's kinda both at the same time, I do agree that some features were rounded up wayy too much so our character looks both too young and also too old at the same time, kinda if you put a wrinkle filter on a baby.