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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Watch what was going on in the healerless clear.
    It's very tight healing&mitigation optimization, the group couldn't survive without the use of Clemency or cover.

    This clear was not possible thanks to tank sustain only:
    -PLD Clemency and abuse of Cover
    -Heavy heal comp (MNK, DNC, RPR, SMN)
    -Sacrifice of DPS to align heals from burst (See PLD delaying Blade combo to benefit the heal from auto attacks)

    It's a fantastic work from the group but if you could see beyond the thumbnail that would help everyone.
    If anything, Clemency being a healer GCD is the elephant in the room, but that's also PLD identity to use white magic.
    -They used exactly ZERO clemencies during uptime
    -90% of the healing game from the tanks, only 10% from the dps
    -cover was only used so they could say they did it without tank LB3
    -they failed 4 mechanics and had 2 deaths
    -this is still a competitive speed kill in spite of above because of how much extra damage tanks do
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 08-18-2024 at 05:59 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    -They used exactly ZERO clemencies during uptime
    -90% of the healing game from the tanks, only 10% from the dps
    -cover was only used so they could say they did it without tank LB3
    -they failed 4 mechanics and had 2 deaths
    -this is still a competitive speed kill in spite of above because of how much extra damage tanks do
    They did use Clemency during downtime, there's a gap between 0 Clemency during the whole fight and 0 Clemency during uptime.
    They also used cover to tank the party stack with only 2 players.
    Unless I'm reading it wrong, the DPS did 28% of the healing.
    The death was a DNC death 30 seconds before the kill and snowballed into a second death. Also, that death was recoved by SMN.

    It's a work from the whole party, not the tanks only.
    Can we stop making up informations now?
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    Given this is yet another complaint topic where minority is demanding sweeping changes,

    please show any evidence of JP mirroring your complaints?

    If not, you can put the matter to rest, since SE does not listen to you, only western content creators and they are only - rightfully - unhappy with DRK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    Given this is yet another complaint topic where minority is demanding sweeping changes,

    please show any evidence of JP mirroring your complaints?

    If not, you can put the matter to rest, since SE does not listen to you, only western content creators and they are only - rightfully - unhappy with DRK.
    JP currently have exactly the same green river as NA does in reference to their PF’s being unable to recruit healers. Images of massive healer gaps are circulating on JP twitter and 2 chan is currently having a meltdown about it

    Why are the JP forums the assumed combined voice of the JP playerbase but the NA forums are an ignorable minority

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinter View Post
    Unironically yes. The game isn't balanced for the 1% savage raiders, it's balanced for the 99% of casuals who just play for fun. It might sound harsh but y'all are a minority of players and therefore don't actually matter.
    Casual or hardcore healers are useless in casual content. The tank doesn’t even need your consent to basically ignore you in casual content, that’s got nothing to do with balancing around savage raiders. You see it every time with moogle events, people will always run without healers. Healers survive in casual content because of DF restrictions, that’s not balance that’s being an enforced burden
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 08-18-2024 at 08:05 PM.