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    I strongly oppose charges to emperyal arrow. BRD’s proc organisation system is explicitly designed around emperyal arrow being the soft controller for your proc order because you either spend it or drift it

    Soft control over other skills is something we don’t see much of in this game and I don’t want to lose it on BRD
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I strongly oppose charges to emperyal arrow. BRD’s proc organisation system is explicitly designed around emperyal arrow being the soft controller for your proc order because you either spend it or drift it

    Soft control over other skills is something we don’t see much of in this game and I don’t want to lose it on BRD
    I guess I'm not sure I understand because drifting Empyeral Arrow is always a dps loss, and the only times you'd ever realistically think about its procs is during Wanderers. If anything the extra charge adds more decisions for the Bard to be able to wait for that extra Repertoire stack in Wanderers to get the full Pitch Perfect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roarmiaka View Post
    I guess I'm not sure I understand because drifting Empyeral Arrow is always a dps loss, and the only times you'd ever realistically think about its procs is during Wanderers. If anything the extra charge adds more decisions for the Bard to be able to wait for that extra Repertoire stack in Wanderers to get the full Pitch Perfect
    Yes so you never want to drift emperyal arrow, which means all other procs have to be built around it because there is no flexibility, so it’s the top of your proc order, if it’s free use it, nothing is more important than not drifting it, all other procs and CD’s BRD has then flow from there

    Without that core system of always having emperyal arrow as the number 1 most important proc then BRD goes from a defined proc order job to basically just press whatever oGCD lights up whenever you want
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I strongly oppose charges to emperyal arrow. BRD’s proc organisation system is explicitly designed around emperyal arrow being the soft controller for your proc order because you either spend it or drift it

    Soft control over other skills is something we don’t see much of in this game and I don’t want to lose it on BRD
    With how BRD is now, it's not a matter of player 'skill' to not drift Empyreal Arrow -- at certain speeds, and how Army's Paeon works, your GCD likely run into it forcing you to either clip your GCD or drift Empyreal Arrow. It's just toxic, and janky at this point. It needs charges.
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    Last edited by mallleable; 08-18-2024 at 03:27 PM.

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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I strongly oppose charges to emperyal arrow. BRD’s proc organisation system is explicitly designed around emperyal arrow being the soft controller for your proc order because you either spend it or drift it

    Soft control over other skills is something we don’t see much of in this game and I don’t want to lose it on BRD
    ..... you can't control rng of procs and it's annoying to use, begging for next 3s song don't proc, are you SE intern btw?
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