The real reason there are even subscribers in 2024

[Maxilor]

Modern FF14:

[Rueby]

So funny you say this because it's true but for very different reasons.

Wow I'm really impressed! It doesn't look like Skyrim at all, this sounds like AI voices though? It's super interesting. I think Skyrim would've died long ago, I'm surprised it's still going! I remember my ex telling me about it back when it was fresh...

I don't want to judge, but as long as I don't see that cursed shit on my screen....you do you. Though I think you traumatized me abit with that...painfully tiny waist and massive booba my back hurts. My therapy is on you.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I don't want to judge, but as long as I don't see that cursed shit on my screen....

This. Though I have said this every time this topic comes up, which due to OP is regularly - who cares what other people want to look at behind their screen. I never see this myself, so no impact on me.

Imagining people playing OnlyQu'tes amuses me though.

[HighlanderClone]

Wow I'm really impressed! It doesn't look like Skyrim at all, this sounds like AI voices though? It's super interesting. I think Skyrim would've died long ago, I'm surprised it's still going! I remember my ex telling me about it back when it was fresh...

I don't want to judge, but as long as I don't see that cursed shit on my screen....you do you. Though I think you traumatized me abit with that...painfully tiny waist and massive booba my back hurts. My therapy is on you.

Yeah, lots of AI voicing in Skyrim now, along with many player made DLCs with good voice acting. Better than Dawntrail unironically lmfao

https://youtu.be/BGCWr-lGdOY?si=joMFlLPWJJlKOdG2&t=678

They even have... Actual accents based on race!

https://youtu.be/BGCWr-lGdOY?si=NoJ7Lc5r44e26e98&t=508

So hilarious that a player made mod is unironically better than FF14

[HighlanderClone]

This. Though I have said this every time this topic comes up, which due to OP is regularly - who cares what other people want to look at behind their screen. I never see this myself, so no impact on me.

Imagining people playing OnlyQu'tes amuses me though.

Actually it impacts all of us. Player-side demand creates change in behavior on the side of developers (both official and unofficial).

There is a reason why Skyrim modders are talking about remaking Oblivion in Skyrim, and have done things like implementing Dark Souls combat in Skyrim, modernizing UI to look like stuff from top third person action games like Jedi Survivor, or writing deep stories like Vigilant that is similar to a fully fleshed out version of the DRK Lv30-50 questline. And just look at any screenshot of modern Skyrim. It looks more next gen than actual next gen titles. Because Skyrim players want them.

We don't have any of that in FF14 and it's not just because it's an online game. There's no texture overhauls to make the landscapes look pristine or to make forests feel denser. There's no UI overhaul that makes you feel like you're playing an action game. There's no writing overhaul to reimagine the storyline or to fix plotholes. All of these can be done with the engine since it's all client-sided. The official devs also have like no incentive to modernize the game because FF14 players genuinely don't know better. They don't know what the potential can be.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Actually it impacts all of us. Player-side demand creates change in behavior on the side of developers (both official and unofficial).

There is a reason why Skyrim modders are talking about remaking Oblivion in Skyrim, and have done things like implementing Dark Souls combat in Skyrim, modernizing UI to look like stuff from top third person action games like Jedi Survivor, or writing deep stories like Vigilant that is similar to a fully fleshed out version of the DRK Lv30-50 questline. And just look at any screenshot of modern Skyrim. It looks more next gen than actual next gen titles. Because Skyrim players want them.

We don't have any of that in FF14 and it's not just because it's an online game. There's no texture overhauls to make the landscapes look pristine or to make forests feel denser. There's no UI overhaul that makes you feel like you're playing an action game. There's no writing overhaul to reimagine the storyline or to fix plotholes. All of these can be done with the engine since it's all client-sided. The official devs also have like no incentive to modernize the game because FF14 players genuinely don't know better. They don't know what the potential can be.

zzzzzzzzzzzz

[gllt]

AI voices, ew

[Rueby]

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I'm really impressed, it doesn't look like skyrim at all. The voice acting is actually pretty decent for AI..but to respond to your other comment.

You're partially correct, SE doesn't innovate because why change things when there's someone else providing players with QoL. Only when it 'blows up' in some kind of scandal like WF or something do they ban the guy and implement a worse version of a plugin. I don't think SE is capable of bringing the level of QoL third party provides to the game, I don't think they understand what the players want/need. This is why I disagree with you on that.

SE is a japanese company and that's a can of worms on its own. I'd say a survey after each patch would be great, like a customer satisfaction of sorts, but I highly doubt this would happen because it probably requires investing into some kind of way to analyze this feedback and it assumes everyone can provide honest feedback.

I doubt anything you're suggesting would ever come to this game because I think this isn't the kind of game. They want to tell a story and for you to consume it, that's it. I think they're really detached from the playerbase and it shows. We need competition because as long as XIV is on top, no innovation is going to happen, but I think the genre is kinda...stagnant? I doubt anything will blow something out of the water, barring an actual disaster, which I'm seeing DT being from what I'm reading and what my friends are saying about the MSQ.

I doubt we'd get custom maps or story lines, god knows I'd love to reimagine alot of EW so I can save that one blonde garlean man. I also want to explore an ending where you go alone to the Tempest to meet Emet. I think if such a thing existed, it'd be amazing, the roleplay potential and the wol story potential would be....off the roof. I'd love to fantasize about it, but realistically speaking, the only medium such ideas can be explored is...fanfiction.

I'll admit, I don't know what the potential of this game can be aside from wanting/missing QoL from other games....how many times did people cry to lift off the restrictions on glam and rework the glamour dresser? This game is basically the cow that is being milked to fund failures like Forspoken and scary announcements like NFTs and mobile games. They don't pour enough into this game though it generates so much for them.

I guess we got a graphical update that broke alot of shit and went kame hame ha on my eyes. I would've rather them take time than deliver half baked product.

I think mods are usually made by passionate players for other players. The same way mods/plugins are made for this game. Devs are detached too + language barrier.

Sorry, rant long, thoughts fragmented, might read abit weird.

[AnnRam]

Yush.
I said before many times, like 80% of the player base (PC players) are""""""""""""" playing""""""""""""" this game like Skyrim with 25000 mods installed, dedicated plugins / addons that leave clients like Second Life in pampers. Those are the whales that keep SE happy and doing the minimum effort.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Yush.
I said before many times, like 80% of the player base (PC players) are""""""""""""" playing""""""""""""" this game like Skyrim with 25000 mods installed, dedicated plugins / addons that leave clients like Second Life in pampers. Those are the whales that keep SE happy and doing the minimum effort.

80% huh, Ima need a source for that. No one I know plays for that reason.