Sena Bryer is right: the hatred that Smile gets is highly problematic

[ViaDesperare]

A VA made an ignorant post about race and music when they didn't know what they were talking about. It doesn't get too much deeper than that and someone at SE should probably tell her to reel it in.

That said, a lot of people in here are real real comfy misgendering Sena. I don't care that she is cringe, cut it out. You are children and any point you think you are making is undercut by the bigoted BS.

IDK, it's going to be hard for people to be accepting of a racist misogynist. You should go look through their X and read through all the tweets about their hatred of AFAB VAs that they work with. To be accepting of that is to share their sentiment to many people. She's just getting the same treatment she gives back at this point. She white, and has no right to talk for black people yeah? So anything black people throw at her should be perfectly fine for what she did.

Since people can't differentiate between Sena and Wuk, I made something.

[Rakdar]

A VA made an ignorant post about race and music when they didn't know what they were talking about. It doesn't get too much deeper than that and someone at SE should probably tell her to reel it in.

That said, a lot of people in here are real real comfy misgendering Sena. I don't care that she is cringe, cut it out. You are children and any point you think you are making is undercut by the bigoted BS.

Respect is earned, and Sena has done nothing worthy of it.

[Oizen]

I think a lot of people are very desperate for representation that they're willing to sacrifice quality to have it.
But in doing so, you get bottom of the barrel corporate slop that does the bare minimum possible to represent these groups and people you want representation for, and this media ends up doing more harm than good by being used as ammunition against your cause.

I think people should instead demand quality representation, which I do not believe Dawntrail really delivered on.

[Alyko]

Smile and Wuk are truly uniting songs. People from all over the world, from every language, agree that Wuk is a terrible character and Smile is a terrible song.

[Rueby]

[Gunz_Zbestest]

Respect is earned, and Sena has done nothing worthy of it.

You can attack a person's position and what they have said without the need for bigoted bs though surely you agree. As we need to keep being clear here since no one else will that misgendering is what losers do.

[Astrus]

2024 is literally insufferable. How is this even a discussion? [...]

I blame modern society progressively getting dumber. It started when discussions stopped being about an exchange of opinions, a discourse on a topic where different points were acknowledged or refuted and ideas evolved as the discussion progressed, and instead turned into a competition where somebody has to prove their preconceived opinion right and "win". Then personal attacks started becoming accepted "arguments" to win the fight and the overall tone of discussion became a lot rougher as a consequence. Politics bleeding into spaces they have no place in is just another symptom of that. Everything has to be about some flavor of politics or another. Any discussion that isn't colored by politics will be made so in short order because people can't not bring them into discussions, worse is when they only bring them into the discussion as ammunition or convenient shields and don't even care about the cause they pretend to represent.
Separating art from artist is a lost skill, someone is inevitably going to bring up the artist's circumstances and sometimes it's even the artist themselves who does it causing any discussion about a piece of art to turn into one about the artist.

When I form an opinion about a piece of art I typically don't care about the color of the artist's skin*, what's in their pants, what gender they identify as, what religion if any they believe in, if they eat all their vegetables or who their favorite sportsball team is, all I care about is the entirely subjective quality of the piece of art in question.
Apparently that line of thinking is so archaic that modern society can't wrap it's head around it and has to course-correct making the discussion about the artists and their circumstances.

*I'll admit the notable exception of miscasting an actor of one race to play a character of another when they're not very good at not being offensive about it and there's plenty of good or even just decent actors of the right race for the role that could have been cast instead.

Everything I learned about Sena Bryer I've learned involuntarily because I was trying to discuss the DT MSQ, Wuk Lamat or the music of DT and someone else just had to go and beat me over the head with the information, I don't even play with the English voiceover and yet I still can't get into a discussion of Wuk without having to discuss Sena and her antics; I don't know how good or bad a job she does of voicing the character and I frankly don't care.

[Boblawblah]

It started when discussions stopped being about an exchange of opinions, a discourse on a topic where different points were acknowledged or refuted and ideas evolved as the discussion progressed.

Could you tell me when this was the norm in the history of the planet?

[Turtledeluxe]

Black creators are speaking on this and calling it out as BS. It's not Black Gospel music.

This thread should be deleted imo.

https://youtu.be/SoN4J0qpmw8?si=vP8YJydYGVzo-Q6J

Sena, Soken, Akino aren't even black. So I don't really care what they were going for and I don't care what Sena has to say.

[LuciferMournstar]

*Snip*(

Really it started when the "Victim Card" mentality became an accepted automatic "I win any argument" button. Falling on "Protected class/race" to get a Privileged "moral high ground", to instantly negate and "cancel" any opposition.