M4S has officially been beaten without healers in week 2

[Somnolence]

You don't even understand basic division so idk why you're lecturing a bunch of Ultimate healers on going to do Savage.

You mean about 30k + 50%? 30k is mitigated value since autos now don't happen constantly.

These guys want them nonstop and hurt more.

[Supersnow845]

You mean about 30k + 50%? 30k is mitigated value since autos now don't happen constantly.

These guys want them nonstop and hurt more.

Yes, this is savage (and ultimate), I want the boss to try to belt the tank to oblivion, this isn’t DRR we are playing

What’s the point of having 190k HP and 80% inherent defence when the autos hit you for 30k and the boss does like 5 per minute

I have single target healing, you have self healing you should be getting belted by the boss. Why do you need all that self healing if the autos don’t even hurt that much, it’s certainly not for busters because that’s what the long mits are for

[Somnolence]

Yes, this is savage (and ultimate), I want the boss to try to belt the tank to oblivion, this isn’t DRR we are playing

This playstyle cannot exist as long as healer dps parses are a thing.

Also even this healing situation is too much for weaker healers in PF. What is Yoshi-P to do to then, since healer population needs to be big enough it must be made even more accessible? Add even more healing tools to other jobs and further dumb down healing?

[Supersnow845]

This playstyle cannot exist as long as healer dps parses are a thing.

Also even this healing situation is too much for weaker healers in PF. What is Yoshi-P to do to then, since healer population needs to be big enough it must be made even more accessible? Add even more healing tools to other jobs and further dumb down healing?

Have you seen PF the role is already dead. Why are you acting like doing anything to healers will completely ruin them, they are already ruined, nobody wants to play them. If you are in PF waiting you are waiting for a healer

And healer DPS parses already factor in GCD healing, people just don’t like GCD healing because it isn’t really necessary in modern fights

[Somnolence]

Why are you acting like doing anything to healers will completely ruin them, they are already ruined, nobody wants to play them.

Because there is not one reason people don't want to play healers, there are many.

And unfortunately the JP complaints are different than yours so if SE will make changes based on that it won't turn out how you would expect.

F. e.

今回ヒールが相当に厳しい（天獄OH除算HPSで倍）なので
週末の断章PTが出るたびにヒラ不足どんどん加速していくぞ
4層まで安定で回せるヒラの絶対量が全く足りてない

This time, healing is particularly tough (double the HPS needed, excluding Heavensfall OH), so every time a token farm party appears on the weekends, the shortage of healers keeps accelerating. There's absolutely not enough healers who can consistently manage up to the fourth phase."

So they are complaining that its too hard to heal

[Supersnow845]

Because there is not one reason people don't want to play healers, there are many.

And unfortunately the JP complaints are different than yours so if SE will make changes based on that it won't turn out how you would expect.

F. e.





So they are complaining that its too hard to heal

You used an example of an ultimate that actually has proper HPS checks given the tanks and healers don’t have overbloated kits for the most part at that level, I’m not quite sure what you intended from that example.

And let’s say that example filtered down to JP PF for savage and they actually did move the game in a direction where the healer is functionally redundant and it makes the healer population explode. GOOD. I’m not selfish if the majority of healer mains want the healer role to be redundant then they can have it, I’m simply pushing back against your weird assumption that we can’t do anything to healers because it’ll break the role when the role is well and truly broken already

[Somnolence]

You used an example of an ultimate that actually has proper HPS checks

Its google translate gimmick, some slang. Maybe they are comparing HPS checks to Heawensward?

Context is about current savage. Its from thread complaining about healer shortage in JP PF.

Yassumption that we can’t do anything to healers because it’ll break the role when the role is well and truly broken already

You misunderstand me, I am behind healer strike complaints (but not strike itself) and I think healers right now are boring and need help.

Just my fix for the problem is fundamentally different, I don't want game rework, just better reward for optimizing than more glare.

[Aravell]

This playstyle cannot exist as long as healer dps parses are a thing.

It's worth noting that if the design forces GCD heals, then those GCD heals will become standard as part of logging that fight.

It's the same as when a melee player complains "Why do I need to disengage for this mechanic? It's hurting my logs!", but every melee has to disengage for that mechanic, so everyone operates under the same circumstances.