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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by moshev View Post
    Oh I agree, seeing that name got my jaw to drop. I really hope that

    Zeus is e.g. the name of the ascian that worked on the 9th to prepare it for rejoining, because otherwise it just makes no sense in-game. The expansion might have some writing problems, but so far the team have been really good in sticking to in-game lore when designing things.
    Would certainly make sense..

    for an ascian originally known as '' Zeus '' to be involved with a lightning aspected calamity.


    Also, reading some reddit threads about Arcadion

    Metem could be short for Metempsychosis. You can google the origins of that word and what it means, and come to your own conclusion of it's implications. :^)
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    Job Role quests.....


    The Job role quest side story been my favorite this expansion for current side stories.

    It has some Super Sentai/Kamen Rider Villain plot going on so yes they are all dumb in their own way but they are also dangerous so they have to be dealt with to prevent serious damages caused by them.

    Each Job role quests also give us a bit of knowledge about other tribes located in regions of Tural we cannot go to because conditions in those places are too extreme for normal people to visit.

    Each tribe surviving because of their Treasure's magical powers either because it is still used in current times or help establish a safe zone for them which allowed their people to adapt to the conditions for those regions.

    It also allows us to see how certain old regions are doing in current events though it is a shame not many people returned for this Job story this time. Only the Melee DPS Role Storyline had us see returning characters.



    Shame the Last Role Quest will not be released until a future update which currently we do not know which one yet.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 08-09-2024 at 02:41 PM.

  3. #123
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    First fight Metem yells "My ring!". So yeah he's the president.


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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    There could be a effect of both connection and gag.

    Another aspect they added this expansion adds a bit more to people's connection to their Shard counterpart in the Source from the Pictomancer story quest.

    If players chosen the Dialogue option to mention the Grand Cosmos in the finale of the Pictomancer story quest, the topic about how people on the Source can have Dreams about the life of their Shard counterpart is discussed.

    This may have a effect on people as they may take those dreams as a way to inspire them to create behaviors, cultures, and etc on the Source.

    This may also apply to people on other Shards having dreams about their other Shard counterparts as well.
    We also see that in the EW relics that our favorite ale sodded smith has dreams of the source and 1st both have had dreams of the other. Which could be an explanation of how the Amdapori mages saw sin eaters.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    About that point

    I asked myself the same thing. But I think the souls remain, otherwise the reaction would probably have been even more extreme.

    Also, Alexandria would need a huge amount of growth to remain stable for so many decades/centuries. It is currently a problem that the birth rate is declining (although this is more of a problem for the endless), but nothing is being done to counter the waste of souls. I suppose the distribution of souls would be more limited if every soul was destroyed when consumed.

    On the other hand, the explanations always mentioned that when a person dies, their soul is stored in the regulator until they are collected. There was never any mention of other souls...

    And then there's Zoraal Ja and his actions...why doesn't he take the Regulators from the living population without slaughtering them if he's after souls...with his actions he only made sure that all the souls that people received as a “salary” were used up...

    At the same time, souls really do seem to leak out when he dies...it's really strange.

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    It's also not explained if new regulators already have a soul inside or if they don't. Either way it's not a sustainable thing as you would need to have to start one soul per regulator. Then you would also need to double that number as everyone would need to be able to bank one extra soul. This of course is assuming that they come preloaded as I tried to figure out in my thread about this. Heck how do you even start this system? Did the Alexandrians do their own 1/2 population sacrifice? Or did they have a way to dip into the aetherial sea and took souls from there at the start? I think most Alexandrians have lived this way for so long that they just don't really think about it. I feel the few Turali that do wear them also aren't really thinking about what all goes down with such a system. The low births could also be due to how there seems to be an uptick in people being born with their aether leaning more towards lightning. Who would want to have a kid when said child could be paralyzed for their whole life?
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  6. #126
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    Well even tho I've only done three out of three 5 role quests I am glad that at least the caster and phys ranged one took til the 98 quest to make me roll my eyes. I'm also glad that in the phys ranged one from the start explained why you wouldn't want to attack the thief and their cronies up close. Unlike the phys ranged one in EW made me wonder why did they really need a ranged dps. I just feel about these the same way I felt about the msq. That they don't acknowledge things they should or at least give us a reason not as to why we shouldn't make people in higher authority positions aware of delusional idiots who have a misguided ideas about how things work. I haven't finished the phys ranged one but I doubt I need to do so in order to wonder why a person who hates richer Ul'dahan merchants mean that they should screw over Ala Mhigo's market. Or why attacking the place would somehow fix anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    That they don't acknowledge things they should or at least give us a reason not as to why we shouldn't make people in higher authority positions aware of delusional idiots who have a misguided ideas about how things work.
    Ironic that you seem to have leveled this at the caster role quest, because the whole point there is that the authorities do know this guy's terrible, they just can't do that much about it. Tank's also about someone with a very specific contempt for the authorities of the region and a desire to stick it to them specifically at every opportunity, and said authorities being unable to do much about it.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Ironic that you seem to have leveled this at the caster role quest, because the whole point there is that the authorities do know this guy's terrible, they just can't do that much about it. Tank's also about someone with a very specific contempt for the authorities of the region and a desire to stick it to them specifically at every opportunity, and said authorities being unable to do much about it.
    I do so because at the start the bad guy says they want to change the social structure from the top down. That even with the few changes we help implement during the 6.x story there's still too much injustice in the lower parts of Thavnirian society. So, to me the reason why I wanted to go poke Varshahn is knowing what kind of person and leader they are. Even if the Raident Host knows the bad guy is a complete clown who actually comes from a wealthy merchant family up to their stunt in town is saying things need improvement. Only to then reveal that so far seems to be the theme of each story is that they want to be the one getting all the praise for the things they do
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    I do so because at the start the bad guy says they want to change the social structure from the top down. That even with the few changes we help implement during the 6.x story there's still too much injustice in the lower parts of Thavnirian society. So, to me the reason why I wanted to go poke Varshahn is knowing what kind of person and leader they are. Even if the Raident Host knows the bad guy is a complete clown who actually comes from a wealthy merchant family up to their stunt in town is saying things need improvement. Only to then reveal that so far seems to be the theme of each story is that they want to be the one getting all the praise for the things they do
    I think you made the mistake of believing the villain that's obviously lying. He's claiming to be a hero solely because he wants to be a hero, and pretty much everything else is backfilled from that. He doesn't actually have any ideals, he doesn't even have any specific beef with the Radiant Host except that they're the people with the thunder he wants to steal. He wants to be a revolutionary because he thinks revolutionaries are cool.

    And yeah, the overarching theme of the role quests so far definitely does seem to be that the Passage of the Unbound don't actually have any collective goals or plans, it's just an excuse for a bunch of jerks and bullies to claim and abuse power. The caster villain wants to be a hero, but everyone else seems very content with just bullying people, for often very thin reasons; tank's villain is basically the only one with an actual beef, but even there it's about something that was unambiguously her fault. The entire story series is pretty clearly evoking tokusatsu stuff (caster maybe more than anything, that guy's so 'Green Ranger' that it has to be deliberate), and yeah, these guys are about as legit as any given villain of the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    I think you made the mistake of believing the villain that's obviously lying. He's claiming to be a hero solely because he wants to be a hero, and pretty much everything else is backfilled from that. He doesn't actually have any ideals, he doesn't even have any specific beef with the Radiant Host except that they're the people with the thunder he wants to steal. He wants to be a revolutionary because he thinks revolutionaries are cool.

    And yeah, the overarching theme of the role quests so far definitely does seem to be that the Passage of the Unbound don't actually have any collective goals or plans, it's just an excuse for a bunch of jerks and bullies to claim and abuse power. The caster villain wants to be a hero, but everyone else seems very content with just bullying people, for often very thin reasons; tank's villain is basically the only one with an actual beef, but even there it's about something that was unambiguously her fault. The entire story series is pretty clearly evoking tokusatsu stuff (caster maybe more than anything, that guy's so 'Green Ranger' that it has to be deliberate), and yeah, these guys are about as legit as any given villain of the week.
    Right, because I should have correctly deduced from doing the healer role quest 1st and the caster one second that all of these would be clown shows from the 1st time I'm introduced to the villan(s). Or that later on they would become one and not instead hope that it was just the one role quest that made me wish I had just waited until I was lv 100 so I could knock them all out in one go and that the others wouldn't follow suit and be Hildibrand light. I just hope the phys ranged one in 8.0 will improve on 7.0 as again it ended up with me going ok so I could have done this fight on any other role. After giving the idea that the reason why one might want to attack from afar was due to the totem's quirk having a knock back.
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