Ideas for DRK substain buffs and more

[Basteala]

Honestly I don't think DRK needs more sustain so much was WAR and PLD need less.

[Oizen]

Honestly I don't think DRK needs more sustain so much was WAR and PLD need less.

I mean this is the third time we've seen big on patch content cleared healerless, and the 3rd time the comp involved PLD stacking with an additional WAR.
So either the XIV community hates pattern recognition or its a conversation no one wants to have

[Noox-115]

I mean this is the third time we've seen big on patch content cleared healerless, and the 3rd time the comp involved PLD stacking with an additional WAR.
So either the XIV community hates pattern recognition or its a conversation no one wants to have

Its more like I dont think SE will go back it would piss too much players who play this job especially WAR (one in particular)

[Oizen]

Its more like I dont think SE will go back it would piss too much players who play this job especially WAR (one in particular)

I'm aware, and if this is their answer then DRK needs buffs in this area.

[Rithy255]

Honestly I don't think DRK needs more sustain so much was WAR and PLD need less.

I'm going disagree and agree.

Paladins self sustain is a case of a lot of it is actually just tied to your damaging attacks, which I think I rather they just remove the sustain from magic attacks and slightly buff up the sustain from holy sheltron (even normal sheltron), Clemency is fine you lose damage for using it, Divine veil could lose the healing aspect, but if dps get to keep healing i don't see why a "paladin" can't have one aoe heal. Honestly I think paladins sustain isn't even that "strong" outside of the healing you get from magic attacks.

Warrior has self healing on every single cooldown and is 10x more of a problem to paladin, it also scales with AOE pulls per enemy with bloodwhetting, It even gets a better version of veil that adds a regen.

Dark Knight while it doens't need more "self healing" I think giving it a tad more sustain on something like oblation would be nice, making cooldowns like Dark Mind and dark missionary more consistent, I'm also not a big fan of TBN but that's just personal opinion I guess.


I guess I'll go with the middle ground take that sustain should be reduced for warrior in particular, Paladin should get some adjustments to where their sustain is and can have some sustain in total be brought down, but I do actually think adding a little more sustain to dark knight isn't a bad thing.

[Noox-115]

Honestly I don't think DRK needs more sustain so much was WAR and PLD need less.

That is also a pretty solid solution

[Reimmi]

Honestly I don't think DRK needs more sustain so much was WAR and PLD need less.

I agree, and i'm a paladin main.
More healing needs to be like clemency if anything. Give up resources, not be passive free healing.
I died in a ex1 PF because i was trying out drk, the healer straight up said "sorry i'm not used to the tank needing healing" :skull:

[LilyPendragon]

I agree, and i'm a paladin main.
More healing needs to be like clemency if anything. Give up resources, not be passive free healing.
I died in a ex1 PF because i was trying out drk, the healer straight up said "sorry i'm not used to the tank needing healing" :skull:

Nerfing tank self sustain may go some way to forcing healers to actually heal again, which may alleviate some of the complaining we've heard from healers for a while.

[Bibine_Bine]

Honestly I don't think DRK needs more sustain so much was WAR and PLD need less.

I generally abide by the philosophy of "buff, don't nerf" except in extreme cases where it's unavoidable. WAR I agree needs changes, but why PLD? PLD is fine, and you also forget that if we're nerfing everything down to DRK's level, GNB would need to get nerfed too.

[Reimmi]

I generally abide by the philosophy of "buff, don't nerf" except in extreme cases where it's unavoidable. WAR I agree needs changes, but why PLD? PLD is fine, and you also forget that if we're nerfing everything down to DRK's level, GNB would need to get nerfed too.

I think if they want to keep some sustain buffing drk to GNB and nerfing pld/war to gnb would be fine as well
That should be as high as tank sustain should ever be