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    IDK where many folk here get their info.

    but it seems so off base.

    If we see the destroyed remnants of old Alexandria, it's clear how long ago the divergence in time it's been since their Calamity.

    But Since the point of the thread is to inform/discover the scarcity or lack of electrope.

    Rather than the Calamity.

    REMEMBER FOLKS, A CALAMITY CAN OCCUR WITHOUT RESULTING IN A REJOINING.(EX: 13th, or the Forestalled 1st<which we then ended/denied>)

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    It doesn't take a genius, or a normal person of intellect to see.

    That the Resource Scarcity of Electrope was during the Calamity of their "SHARD".

    We Know that locations without any connections or synchronization of Time. Experience Variable/Large Divergences in Time. (Just as Yyasulani experienced a 30yr Time Gap in such a short time.)

    It's not hard to see that during that time.
    Alexandria had survived, and Rebuilt their nation into S9.
    (Be that within their bubble or any other land related to their shard, is a different topic)

    The Milala large had hands on the Development of the Tech. as it was their Knowledge that began that off shot of Development. (Ever Since they lived in Alo Alo, and fled from the source).

    It just makes sense that after Alexandria Survived. They manufactured and reused whatever remaining electrope they had. and Advanced/Refined Their "Stone-Circuitry" Technology. [Not unlike Redstone]

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    If one has doubts, retreading the story and lore helps. But asking doesn't hurt. which the Thread Maker did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    I'm saying you can have 2 lightning calamities because there are more shards than elements, and since you LITTERALLY go in the shard where Alexandria comes from (12th floor is still in that shard), it means the shard STILL exists, and thus it's probably not the 12th. There is the possibility of time travel to a past where the second calamity didn't happen yet, but if that a possibility, you can make the ascian come back from the past, and still recreate Zordiark with part of him from when he existed. If that's the way they go, nothing matter anymore story wise. So I'm gonna assume they thought a little about it.
    I can't be exact on why the shards specifically can or can't be the same elements.

    But it's clear the Ascians had Plans. Just like the 12 had their Astral and Umbral Polarities.

    2 Polarities of Each element. But we don't have any concrete data. On how they chose which shard to be which type.

    All we know, is that there are 13 Shards and a Source.
    1 Planned Light, one Dark, One Lightning, Water, Fire, Ice.
    ETC ETC.

    It would be an interesting topic for the more lore inclined of us to have. but we should probably shy away from getting distracted from the easily answerable question of the "Perceived Electrope Scarcity" when comparing a Nation during Calamity, and a Surviving Nation Post 100's of Years of Development and New/Reused Resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    IDK where many folk here get their info.

    but it seems so off base.

    If we see the destroyed remnants of old Alexandria, it's clear how long ago the divergence in time it's been since their Calamity.

    But Since the point of the thread is to inform/discover the scarcity or lack of electrope.

    Rather than the Calamity.

    REMEMBER FOLKS, A CALAMITY CAN OCCUR WITHOUT RESULTING IN A REJOINING.(EX: 13th, or the Forestalled 1st<which we then ended/denied>)
    Umbral Calamities are specifically the disasters on the Source when a Rejoining occurs, and a shard being consumed by Light or Dark renders it unable to be rejoined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Umbral Calamities are specifically the disasters on the Source when a Rejoining occurs, and a shard being consumed by Light or Dark renders it unable to be rejoined.
    Incorrect. Shards being consumed by light and dark are able to be rejoined. The problem is that the Void was the 1st attempt at this and at that moment the Ascians didn't know that they had to trigger a darkness elemental catastrophe in the Source for it to trigger a rejoining.

    In the "real timeline" the first + Black Rose triggered a Light Umbral Calamity and rejoined the first. But timetravel's a thing and Graha managed to change the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    REMEMBER FOLKS, A CALAMITY CAN OCCUR WITHOUT RESULTING IN A REJOINING.(EX: 13th, or the Forestalled 1st<which we then ended/denied>)
    Excuse me but no. Maybe it's just playing on the word, but a calamity is what happens in the source when the eather of a shard flood the source. 1st shard is good example, the calamity associated to it was the 8th, and by rewriting history, it was avoided. Only person that lived it G'raha. Flood of lightning/darkness (or what seems to be a thunder flood) are different from calamities, its what happens in the shards. Minfilia stopped the flood of light, and you stopped the possiblity of it to resume. In the game timeline, there was no calamity associated with the 1st and the 13th.
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