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  1. #11
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaytex View Post
    I'm all for class individuality and identity but healers are by far the most homogenised role with almost no difference between them, so it's not like giving WHM another tool that is just AST but with a different vfx would really change anything lol
    That’s why I’m offering an alternative that still “fixes” the problem but is less just a complete copy of AST

    WHM needs party mit, but straight copying AST’s mit profile when they can at least pretend to offer some measure of difference and leaning into the lily system is better in my eyes
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  2. #12
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I still maintain the idea that Temperance should've been Afflatus Purgation but consumes 2 blue lilies at 90s cooldown. Stolen directly from my own WHM rework doc:
    Afflatus Purgation (Instant | Cooldown: 90s | 2 Blue Lily | 40y) - ➖5y
    Deal unaspected damage with a potency of 420 to main target & 60% less to other enemies within a straight line before you & grants ‘Temperance’ to self and ‘Regen’ to all nearby party members.
    Temperance: Reduces damage taken by self and party members within a radius of 50 yalms by 15%.
    Regen: 40p
    Duration: 21s
    Does not need a target to execute.
    Oh wow, this totally does not remind me of the White Mage limit break in PvP :kappa:

    But it would be more interesting no doubt.
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  3. #13
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    Emitans's Avatar
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Square: We have received your feedback. Medica III's potency has been increased by 10.
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  4. #14
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Emitans View Post
    Square: We have received your feedback. Medica III's potency has been increased by 10.
    Nah that would be unfair they'd increase all healers gcd aoe heals by 10 potency.
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  5. #15
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Upgraded?
    Visual Upgrade lol. Everyone already knows that WHM is the red headed stepchild of healers to SE, so any "upgrade" on WHM should be taken with a grain of salt, and Temperance is just one of many grains we've had to shallow over the years.
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  6. #16
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Divine Caress could be the answer.

    It shouldn't be tied to Temperence because you only have 30s to cast it.
    The shield is only 10s, which mean you can push it ~40s away from Temperence.

    You still have 50s without party mitigation that can occur every 30s/60s.

    Either Divine Caress should be triggered by something else, or just be a new flat oGCD on a 60s recast (nerf the potency to 300 shield and 100 regen if needeed to balance it).

    Or they could indeed bring back Stoneskin II as an oGCD (10% party member max hp)
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  7. #17
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    ExileOmnisoul's Avatar
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    Solus Astrablaze
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by mallleable View Post
    Just cut the cool down of Temperance in half down to 60 seconds. Let WHM pop out the wings more often.
    Exactly. AST can do this with collective unconsciousness. This IMO is WHMs greatest disadvantage compared to other healers.
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  8. #18
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Honestly asylum is trash and that's obviously meant to be a form of mitigation. Probably just get that removed and replace it with stoneskin or something else that can be a mitigation option, placeable bubble on the ground always felt a bit weird on WHM imo having that replaced with something else would be better.
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  9. 08-16-2024 09:31 PM

  10. #19
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    Pyth Dawncaller
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by mallleable View Post
    Just cut the cool down of Temperance in half down to 60 seconds. Let WHM pop out the wings more often.
    I'm 100% behind this change
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