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    Selvokaz's Avatar
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    Reiya Rahamos
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    Astrologian Lv 100

    Moving Forward a way we might progress in the future.

    What if...

    Instead of levels we unlocked new jobs that would start from level 1 and level up to 100 again but these jobs are tertiary? In that they require 2 or more job stones to unlock,

    For example Sorcerer, it would require you to have mastered White Mage, as well as Black Mage, in doing so you can fuse the two stones to unlock Sorcerer You'll still have access to the two jobs but they wouldn't require a job stone anymore much like you don't need a job stop to go back to being a conjurer or marauder, this new job would give you access to the strongest skills of the job the combination leans to the most, in this case Black Mage's level 70 to 100 skills, and a few options from White Mage, perhaps the abilities from level 30 to 60, and while leveling the new job from 1 to whatever you unlock whatever new skills or ideas they have for that job that fit that theme.

    Besides sorcerer I'm already thinking of dozens of combinations, they wouldn't even have to limit themselves to using any one job once, they could come back to Black Mage again and say if you combined it with Ninja you unlock Vampire, maybe you have to pick which jobs you want to fuse and you don't get to freely switch them around unless you pay some kind of hefty fee. At least until this becomes old news,

    What if they don't even tell us what combinations exist, and for the first few weeks and each patch they introduce new ones maybe 1 or 2 and its up to us to figure out what they are and how to do any related quest to make them available.
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    while a nice idea...

    I cannot see it working with the team at SE and their current job design abilities.
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    Negative Space
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvokaz View Post
    For example Sorcerer, it would require you to have mastered White Mage, as well as Black Mage, in doing so you can fuse the two stones to unlock Sorcerer
    Live Red Mage reaction:

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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    Sivante Si'akea
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    I like this idea, but it would create bottle-necks and the type of min-maxing Yoshi and the CS3 team have been violently railing against for years. In part because it would become so hard to balance. Giving a 'prestige class' (so to speak) anything meaningful means they have to be meaningfully balanced, which ... frankly they're struggling to balance the classes they have in the game already.

    That aside I actually do like the idea. That or the old EQ AA system. But... I think that's also unlikely.
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Sadly, considering that used to be a thing, in that you had to level two classes to unlock the Jobs with their unique skills, such as Gladiator and Conjurer to unlock Paladin, for instance, and they took it behind the shed and Old Yellered it once they realized they weren't going to bother with it after HW's new Jobs, there's no way they're going to bother doing that again. This dev team doesn't have the balls to make someone actually play a different Job than what they actually want, even for a reward.

    I do miss the days when we got some really cool stuff. Like Paladin with Raise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    Live Red Mage reaction:

    that's also literally what sage is in older titles
    able to use the highest tier of black and white magic, whereas red mage could only use around mid-level spells with the addition of swordplay
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVXIV View Post
    that's also literally what sage is in older titles
    able to use the highest tier of black and white magic, whereas red mage could only use around mid-level spells with the addition of swordplay
    To be fair SGE is basically the only job in 14 who doesn’t remotely match any past iteration of it on any way

    Technist doctor mage really doesn’t have any old job it links to and SGE feels like a placeholder name
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess