Rphys: why slow walk casts (ala pvp) aren't a solution

[Lyth]

It's worth noting that the Magical Ranged DPS role is not called 'Caster'. It's called Magical Ranged DPS. Casts can be found on pretty much all other roles. All of the arguments against occasional casts or walking casts on Physical Ranged DPS just boil down to personal preference.

Discussing balance around 'difficulty' is subjective. There are different things that each role values in terms of 'challenge.' I think Snow makes a good point, in that Physical Ranged doesn't really have an identity currently. It's not really a 'support role', because even the likes of PCT has equivalent utility. It's not a 'damage role' either, 1% buff aside.

I can appreciate that any change to design direction is going to be met with resistance and naysayers. But there needs to be one in place for 8.0 at the latest. Otherwise, they might as well merge down Ranged into a single category and just standardize people replacing the Physical Ranged slot with a Magical Ranged.

[RaZz0r]

It's worth noting that the Magical Ranged DPS role is not called 'Caster'. It's called Magical Ranged DPS. Casts can be found on pretty much all other roles. All of the arguments against occasional casts or walking casts on Physical Ranged DPS just boil down to personal preference.

Discussing balance around 'difficulty' is subjective. There are different things that each role values in terms of 'challenge.' I think Snow makes a good point, in that Physical Ranged doesn't really have an identity currently. It's not really a 'support role', because even the likes of PCT has equivalent utility. It's not a 'damage role' either, 1% buff aside.

I can appreciate that any change to design direction is going to be met with resistance and naysayers. But there needs to be one in place for 8.0 at the latest. Otherwise, they might as well merge down Ranged into a single category and just standardize people replacing the Physical Ranged slot with a Magical Ranged.

Yes they should, the idea of a support DPS is stupid as the whole concept is legacy design there should be Healers Tanks Melee DPS and Ranged DPS some ranged dps has cast times some dont.
(MCH should still be without same with BRD and DNC).

They all should have the potential to roughly do the same amount of personal damage, tuned around if they bring raid buffs or not.
As someone who brings massive raid buffs should probably have a bit lower personal damage and those who don't should naturally be a bit higher to keep things fair.

Jobs can still have job flavor using unique animations and spell effects without gimping / inflating their damage, job "identity" should not shaft their potential output be it raw numbers or due to gimmics.