BLM 5% buff isn't enough

[Eraden]

All I see here is RDM/SMN and the phys ranged need love. Machinist is really going through it there.

Mao sad for Machinists. Is no excuse for makings job so poor in dps. Mao askings how long has Machinists been sufferings likes this?

[Supersnow845]

My only takeaway from the current DPS charts is that the melee; particularly VPR are disgustingly overtuned for their actual relative complexity. DRG, NIN and RPR are in a similar position

Sure you can argue that BLM can be above PCT but VPR is the real offender here

[CaedemSanguis]

My only takeaway from the current DPS charts is that the melee; particularly VPR are disgustingly overtuned for their actual relative complexity. DRG, NIN and RPR are in a similar position

Sure you can argue that BLM can be above PCT but VPR is the real offender here

I find viper harder than drg/rpr to optimize

[ApolloGenX]

So give it utility like PCT and move on. Not like the PCT heal is amazing.

[Turtledeluxe]

So give it utility like PCT and move on. Not like the PCT heal is amazing.

Leaving it selfish dps is the non homogenous way to do it. This would work too, it's just job homogenization logic.

It isn't just BLM either. PCT is eating RDM and SMN lunch too in clears.

[Supersnow845]

Leaving it selfish dps is the non homogenous way to do it. This would work too, it's just job homogenization logic.

It isn't just BLM either. PCT is eating RDM and SMN lunch too in clears.

Selfish DPS is just an outdated concept, ignoring poor MCH (who barely even counts as selfish as it’s the only DPS with 2 non conditional mitigations) a DPS shouldn’t immediately always be in contention for top spot simply because they don’t bring anything to the raid besides damage

There is also just the fact that where do you draw the line with utility? Is star prism utility (I’d say yes) is SAM’s disgusting new defensive that basically makes it an off tank utility (I’d say yes a lot of people say no)

The modern game is built so heavily around raid buffs that every DPS should have some form of conditional utility (like star prism or SAM’s defensive) so that every single tier the top of the charts isn’t dominated by the same 3 classes who are there simply because they are selfish

[Tunda]

Selfish DPS is just an outdated concept, ignoring poor MCH (who barely even counts as selfish as it’s the only DPS with 2 non conditional mitigations) a DPS shouldn’t immediately always be in contention for top spot simply because they don’t bring anything to the raid besides damage

There is also just the fact that where do you draw the line with utility? Is star prism utility (I’d say yes) is SAM’s disgusting new defensive that basically makes it an off tank utility (I’d say yes a lot of people say no)

The modern game is built so heavily around raid buffs that every DPS should have some form of conditional utility (like star prism or SAM’s defensive) so that every single tier the top of the charts isn’t dominated by the same 3 classes who are there simply because they are selfish

I would go against this

All dps jobs should be selfish

There should be another role in the game called "support"
Which is not dps not tank not healer

They should have supporting utilities every 2 min buffs
Instead of giving it to all jobs and now we have tanks who heal more than healers(warrior)

Dancer bard should be support role they do all buffs for party

Light party:
1 tank
1 healer
1dps
1 support

Full party:
2 dps
2 support
2 healers
2 tanks

[Natalyah]

Poor Summoner

[Silver-Strider]

All I'm seeing from that chart is that PCT and VPR are busted and Ranged needs a hefty buff, including their honorary members of SMN/RDM.

Rotational complexity aside, SAM and BLM I believe are in the most reasonable spots on the list, being middle of the road between jobs that have a lot of utility vs Jobs that have less utility. VPR needs to be brought down to that level so as to not be so overbearing. The other melees seem fine for the most part.

MCH needs a hefty buff. As the "selfish" DPS of the Physical Ranged, even if we account for the ludicrousness of the Ranged Tax, it shouldn't be that much lower than NIN at the least, being somewhere in the ballpark of where the higher tier of RDMs is currently at, with DNC/BRD/SMN/RDM following suit, although I couldn't state if they should be above or below MCH. PCT is hard to place though. The motifs having such long cast times can be justification for having higher DPS but the added utility it brings is also hard to undercut as an AoE shield and an Indom every 2 minutes isn't something to just brush off either. It should also be down there with the other Ranged roles though.

[Aco505]

My only takeaway from the current DPS charts is that the melee; particularly VPR are disgustingly overtuned for their actual relative complexity. DRG, NIN and RPR are in a similar position

Sure you can argue that BLM can be above PCT but VPR is the real offender here

DRG... overtuned? I guess we live in different realities.

Anyway, what BLM needs is fixing the elements that BLM players find rigid or badly implemented such as Thunder and Flare Star.