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  1. #231
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    ReynTime's Avatar
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    The emotion on her voice rarely fits what the character is supposed to be evoking in scenes where they do more than have mundane chatting standing around. If you can't tell that by yourself and need someone else to point it out, I'm sorry, your standards for voice acting are abysmal.
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  2. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Could you post a video example (not the spheeeene example please, we've heard that one many times already) of what you mean by flat monotone with no emotion?
    One example that came in mind is when Wuk Lamat
    attack Zoraal Ja just after he killed Galool Ja Ja.
    In Japanese, German or even French, you can hear the anger, the rage and the pain when she is saying her brother name (the german one in absolutely marvelous in this case). In English she whispers it with a barely hoarse voice.
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    Last edited by Zackneifein; 08-08-2024 at 07:20 AM. Reason: spoiler

  3. #233
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    Thaelyn Arryn
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    All 4 languages This was what I could find, without the SPEEEEEN scene.
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  4. #234
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Could you post a video example (not the spheeeene example please, we've heard that one many times already) of what you mean by flat monotone with no emotion?
    Try the scene of speaking from the top of the building at the ceremony. No volume, same exact casual inside speaking voice as anywhere else. When shes supposed to be speaking out to a crowd.
    Listen to any other language dub and you can tell the change in everything based on context of the situation, but nothing in english.

    You can always search things yourself you know. It's not hard.
    Here, I think "lower case yell" fits the issue perfectly:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wVr8s6...Rpbmcgc2NlbmVz

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xMcEwE...Rpbmcgc2NlbmVz

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FnP4LQ...Rpbmcgc2NlbmVz
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  5. #235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    You can always search things yourself you know. It's not hard.
    Thanks so much for posting examples for me
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  6. #236
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    I can only laugh at those degenerate people who really think they have to send death threads to people because they dont like their voice in a video game hahaha. Like, who the hell cares? As if those base dwelling creatures would ever leave their hole to actually follow up on it. Thats just the internet and if you post some stupid shit on twitter and perform poorly at your job, you are bound to get some kind of shitstorm and have do deal with it in a professional way. Whining on twitter wont help
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  7. #237
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladedance87 View Post
    I can only laugh at those degenerate people who really think they have to send death threads to people because they dont like their voice in a video game hahaha. Like, who the hell cares? As if those base dwelling creatures would ever leave their hole to actually follow up on it. Thats just the internet and if you post some stupid shit on twitter and perform poorly at your job, you are bound to get some kind of shitstorm and have do deal with it in a professional way. Whining on twitter wont help
    Well look at you, keyboard warrior. Maybe read the entire thread and not skim through. You might actually learn a thing or 2.
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  8. #238
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    I mean one can condemn the harrasment and death threads hurled at of her and Transphobic tendencies observerved in the Forum (no not every critic is transphobic, but some people certainly act that way) while also being against weird stuff Sena has said. Those things are not mutual exclusive.

    On a pure basic level, i will fight that people have equal rights.
    And of course LGBTQIA+ People are still...well people. We all are different some People nice and pleasant some, some are impulsive and energetic, some..rather unpleasant.
    People are people with all there different facets.
    Yeah, this.

    I can still think she's a jerk for her own comments, but that has absolutely zero to do with her identity because hey, being people too, trans folks can also have bad takes and flaws like the rest of us (doubly so when they make the same mistake a lot of people do by posting it on Twitter, oof!). But she sure as hell didn't say anything to warrant the harassment and threats she's gotten. Same thing with the transphobes here, they're getting rightly bodied for their attitude and actions, not because they happen to be white, black, man, woman, gay, lesbian, etc. (And no, if they get moderated that isn't "harassment or threats" lol.)

    That said, it's my understanding that Dawntrail's EN VA performance in general was subpar? Like, it wasn't even just Wuk Lamat, but even long time characters with established EN VA like some of the Scions sounded rushed/phoned in? If that's the case, it might be worth giving the whole English voice track of Dawntrail a redo (I can think of worst things they could spend my sub/cash shop money on). As well, I've been told that Wuk Lamat isn't terribly popular JPN, EU, or OCE side either, which means the problems with the character are entirely on the writers and not the VA because it sounds like *none* of them could salvage what they had to work with. Asking for a rewrite isn't quite as feasible I think, since so much of the story is tied into the cutscenes and gameplay, which means the only recourse there is to simply "do better" going forward.

    So yeah, not liking the character, writing, and performance is valid if Square-Enix really did drop the ball on all fronts, and even disliking Sena due to her comments makes sense too, but it's entirely possible to dislike all these things without being transphobic about it whatsoever, but that seems to be the ball a part of the community is dropping right now themselves, and it'll only serve to undermine actually valid criticism about SE's current work. (And the last thing you want to give them is a free pass to ignore any problems when they make enough excuses already.)
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  9. #239
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    Frankly idc about the situation but i will say they are attention seeking but its twitter who really cares how they think....right right???
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    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

  10. #240
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    What are you about? Im no keyboard warrior lol i just voiced my opinion how i find it laughable that people send death threats over some stupid shit in a game. A damned game. Something people should enjoy or just stop playing if they dont enjoy it anymore.simple as that. The second part was just about me thinking that sena should get a helmet if she posts that stuff she wrote on twitter because it would ofc trigger those people. Thats just the internet. Been there , seen that...
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