With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[Zykorberus]

It's very superficial to go after the VA when they actually did a good job. The issue with the expansion overall, for me was the dialogue and character handling but that has nothing to do witht he VA. In fact, there are parts of Wuk Lamat's dialogue where you can see how the VA strtuggled to deliver certain lines because how they were written. it's not their job to edit the dialogue, it's the writers' job to make the dialogue interesting and not for it to feel out of place and to make the characters engaging and understand the playerbase in order for them not to become unlikable.

The people attacking the VA like Grummz (or however his name is spelled) are people who haven't even actually played the game. The criticism for Wuk lamat from actual players/streamers/youtubers with proven history of going through the entire MSQ is more about the writting, dialogue and character handling. You can almost be certain the people attacking the VA aren't even part of the community because the community is mostly LGBT friendly. If they were actual players they would go for something more in-game related like certain gear visuals or something more indepth.

[MartinFreeman]

Then don't reply.

However, to entertain myself and the masses who will read this...

Oh look at that...

[Volgia]

When a thread like this appears I have a lot of sympathy for Sena, given the general vibe of some FFXIV haters, in no time some random weirdo will start asking if they can have a valid criticism about a VA and then slip in their weird incel politics in the post, it's kind of obnoxious.

I hope this stops for her at some point.

[MartinFreeman]

It's very superficial to go after the VA when they actually did a good job

The voice actor did not.

You can almost be certain the people attacking the VA aren't even part of the community because the community is mostly LGBT friendly.

The keyword is friendly. Sena is not friendly on twitter.

[Pepperblue]

It's clear why she's been the target of such vitriol, FF14 has always had bad voice actors from time to time to the point it's even a meme, and yet not one has received death threats over it

[Sorimachi87]

Hating on others to make yourself feel better is a long grown psychological issue in humanity.
The internet in that regard can be a blessing and a curse however. Generally spoken.

Sena needs to go her way. I am sure she will.

[Sivante]

And now, a few of you, for WHATEEEEEVER reason…have felt justified in doing the above.

I'll put the actual context of that tweet aside and take the bait:

What do you mean 'a few of you'? Less than 1% of subscribers use the forums, why in the world do you think someone in the forums did this? Honestly, why are you even convinced a FFXIV player did this? Sweet Baby has its crowds of haters, and the transphobic are abound. What possessed you to narrow this down to not just FFXIV player, but also to a forum poster, when gross people come out of the woodwork to take swings on people in Sena's situation? Doesn't assuming it was someone here kind of undermine how toxic and transphobic the world is in general?

Why are we 'drawing attention' to something the news, and Sena, have both covered ad nauseum? And why didn't you include the full context of what Sena said in those tweets?

I’ve been playing 14 since 2.0 and I have not once seen the collective community go behind the scenes/character to do what’s transpired here, be it this forum, Reddit, wherever. Not the first time, but this…

I hate Wuk, but her VA did nothing to earn my ire. That being said... what? You've been playing since 2.0 and have not seen the collective community go behind the scenes/character to do what's transpired here? Not the first time? I don't know what that means. You say you've not once seen this, but then say this isn't the first time.

End of the day I'm curious what you expect here? Popularity and fame of success come with death threats: by example, Stephen King still gets them and he's definitively not a trans woman he's just a bad writer. It isn't acceptable, it isn't a good thing, but it is to be expected that the popular get death threats: It's a common-place thing across the entertainment industry in the states. Not *desirable* again, but that's how fame and fortune tend to go in this crazy place.

[MartinFreeman]

I admire the usage of "transphobe" despite the user previously saying that we shouldn't be toxic. A rather telling situation of "it's fine if I do it, not fine if someone else does."

[Thurmnmurmn]

I bet that most of this backlash wouldn't be extending this far out if it wasn't for her twitter. The shit she says on there 100% fuels the fire way more.
She just needs to get off the internet for a while honestly. But at this point, she may have done too much damage to her reputation already.

[Picothea]

I'll put the actual context of that tweet aside and take the bait:

What do you mean 'a few of you'? Less than 1% of subscribers use the forums, why in the world do you think someone in the forums did this? Honestly, why are you even convinced a FFXIV player did this? Sweet Baby has its crowds of haters, and the transphobic are abound. What possessed you to narrow this down to not just FFXIV player, but also to a forum poster, when gross people come out of the woodwork to take swings on people in Sena's situation? Doesn't assuming it was someone here kind of undermine how toxic and transphobic the world is in general?

Why are we 'drawing attention' to something the news, and Sena, have both covered ad nauseum? And why didn't you include the full context of what Sena said in those tweets?

I’ve been playing 14 since 2.0 and I have not once seen the collective community go behind the scenes/character to do what’s transpired here, be it this forum, Reddit, wherever. Not the first time, but this…

I hate Wuk, but her VA did nothing to earn my ire. That being said... what? You've been playing since 2.0 and have not seen the collective community go behind the scenes/character to do what's transpired here? Not the first time? I don't know what that means. You say you've not once seen this, but then say this isn't the first time.

End of the day I'm curious what you expect here? Popularity and fame of success come with death threats: by example, Stephen King still gets them and he's definitively not a trans woman he's just a bad writer. It isn't acceptable, it isn't a good thing, but it is to be expected that the popular get death threats: It's a common-place thing across the entertainment industry in the states. Not *desirable* again, but that's how fame and fortune tend to go in this crazy place.

Bringing attention to the toxicity in this forum is warranted. It's not the entirety or a majority of the community that's hateful, but it's enough to be noticed on multiple platforms, including this one. In this very thread there are users who have made personal and discriminatory attacks against Sena Bryer, and I'm sure the other usual suspects will soon turn up to talk about how she is "misgendering [herself]" like that makes hatred valid.

I get your frustration in seeing posts about this, but the hate is very much present, and I'm okay with bringing up the problem until the moderators do something about the troublemakers.