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    You need to get your facts straight and not post a part of a conversation to fit your narrative.

    Thanks to @Karious, for posting the convo.
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    Don't look back, that's not the way you're going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antharaes View Post
    You need to get your facts straight and not post a part of a conversation to fit your narrative.

    Thanks to @Karious, for posting the convo.
    Exactly why I do not care for the voice actor. They've been having fun going after everyone else with their holier-than-thou nature, but the moment someone bites back, they cannot take the bullying that they were dishing out.

    I have no patience for people like this anymore because I know the game they play and the lies they will tell or truths to exaggerate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    Exactly why I do not care for the voice actor. They've been having fun going after everyone else with their holier-than-thou nature, but the moment someone bites back, they cannot take the bullying that they were dishing out.

    I have no patience for people like this anymore because I know the game they play and the lies they will tell or truths to exaggerate.
    Haters will say he's transphobic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retsu90 View Post
    Haters will say he's transphobic.
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    They do not need to considering they are all women. The english voice actor...is not. Which is why they come across as a very flamboyant gay man.
    And the haters would be correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antharaes View Post
    You need to get your facts straight and not post a part of a conversation to fit your narrative.

    Thanks to @Karious, for posting the convo.
    I don't disbelieve that Sena is receiving threats, but why choose a message with literally none of that as an example of the supposed hate messages? Is the voice actor conflating valid criticism with transphobia?

    It's also pretty tasteless to resent someone else for getting the support they deserve and to try to make it all about yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I don't disbelieve that Sena is receiving threats, but why choose a message with literally none of that as an example of the supposed hate messages? Is the voice actor conflating valid criticism with transphobia?

    It's also pretty tasteless to resent someone else for getting the support they deserve and to try to make it all about yourself.
    She's not saying the problem is Imane getting the help she needs, though her wording needs work. Sena is noting Imane is experiencing transphobic attacks (without even being trans) and she'd like for trans women to get the same support when experiencing it.

    I'm tired of the aggressive posters being given grounds to misrespresent these things. Look at their track record, this doesn't justify their hatred even if we pretended Sena's posts were worse.
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    Last edited by Picothea; 08-07-2024 at 12:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    She's not saying the problem is Imane getting the help she needs, though her wording needs work. Sena is noting Imane is experiencing transphobic attacks (without even being trans) and she'd like for trans women to get the same support when experiencing it.
    Sure but the point still stands, why does she quote something that has nothing to do with transphobia

    That said death threats are awful and I believe she should get in touch with law enforcements when it comes to that, comparing her situation to olympic athlete isn't gonna do her any good
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    Quote Originally Posted by EponaTBHSMH View Post
    Sure but the point still stands, why does she quote something that has nothing to do with transphobia

    That said death threats are awful and I believe she should get in touch with law enforcements when it comes to that, comparing her situation to olympic athlete isn't gonna do her any good
    It has everything to do with transphobia. Imane Khelif was endlessly accused of faking her gender and concealing tests of her sex. This is an example of transphobic attacks targeting a non-trans woman, and it shows the transphobia needs to end.
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    When you're in a position like Sena, you can't say anything without people assuming the absolute worst about your intent. Even her disclaimers in her own tweets do nothing to dissuade someone arguing in bad faith.

    On a side note, telling Sena to take the death threats to the police may be well-intentioned and all, but she's likely already doing that. Filing the appropriate reports is more important than flashing the evidence to people she doesn't know on the internet- it might even disrupt the police's efforts if she were to spread it around. Then there's the question of whether the police will even help her, international interactions being what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    When you're in a position like Sena, you can't say anything without people assuming the absolute worst about your intent. Even her disclaimers in her own tweets do nothing to dissuade someone arguing in bad faith.

    On a side note, telling Sena to take the death threats to the police may be well-intentioned and all, but she's likely already doing that. Filing the appropriate reports is more important than flashing the evidence to people she doesn't know on the internet- it might even disrupt the police's efforts if she were to spread it around. Then there's the question of whether the police will even help her, international interactions being what they are.
    I'm sorry but calling everyone racist for not liking smile or transphobic for not liking Dawn trail MC; bigot for not liking Dawn Trail; or better yet hounding a VA to quit their job just because they do not "deserve" it as a woman is not assuming the absolute worst that is Sena Bryer btw they hounded a female VA having their fans harass that VA so hard that this VA quit their job on that character; Sena basically made them not being able to land neither a M or F voice over role into a because the industry is transphobic I am not getting jobs when the VA industry in itself is already a tough space to be in Sena Bryer has such a victim mentality it would not surprise me if when YoshiP shelves wuk Lamat they go on a rampage for FFXIV being bigoted and transphobic misogynists.
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