Feedback treatment by SE

[VerdeLuck]

At this point I just assume statistics are their feedback. Maybe majority of Vipers were just absolutely horrible.

It's very likely. The biggest issue with release viper is the tooltips were extremely confusing and wordy compared to how it actually played. It's very posssible that a ton of players were confused by the explanations and flat out played the job wrong and that's the reason.

[MisterNublet]

They probably get a majority of their feedback from the Japanese speaking portion of Twitter which is full of the toxic-casual "GCBTW" playerbase, then the Japanese side of the official forums, followed by Content Creators/Streamers, and the English official forums being dead last.

I doubt they'd ever look at Reddit.

[PorxiesRCute]

Yet another thread for the "living rent-free" tag...

[EponaTBHSMH]

Yet another thread for the "living rent-free" tag...

That's only for people trying to derail it

There are some interesting theories so far about where they do get their feedback from

Twitter, even if it's JP Twitter would be absolutely wild, but considering the changes we get i wouldnt be surprised

[Commander_Justitia]

Even if they get the feedback, end of day it is still Yoshi P's design philosophy for a MMORPG. I do not think he has longterm players, that want a midcore challenge, in mind as much as attracting new players and creating a more casual video game.
I don't think it will change until player count is going down. It has been rising last years thanks to pandemic. I think it will go downhill from here, if they not cater more to veteran players.

[Ayalu]

That kinda raises the quest, why even entertain a feedback forum if it isn't wanted.

Well at least the Japanese side has proper Moderation.

[1313]

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...apanese-Forums

I see you and your glorious signature, and I am stealing it.

[Lazariah]

That kinda raises the quest, why even entertain a feedback forum if it isn't wanted.

Well at least the Japanese side has proper Moderation.

Yeah there are several discussions I see in these forums that are just hostile as hell and really should be locked but NOPE. Just letting people stew, fight, and get worse! Makes me think they really need to look at the EN moderator team and maybe add more people.

[Voidmage]

It's very likely. The biggest issue with release viper is the tooltips were extremely confusing and wordy compared to how it actually played. It's very posssible that a ton of players were confused by the explanations and flat out played the job wrong and that's the reason.

I agree with that.
I don’t know how much sense it makes to change something after a month already.
Most players are only learning the job then.

On topic:
Either side and Reddit also say that they listen to the other.

I think it’s a mix of all as well as statistics.
Player engagement in content —> statistics
Reception if something is liked —> forum and co. The non Japanese side just has the problem of being filtered I would say, not even in bad faith but just language stuff.

Things like how a story is liked, I don’t think statistics work here?

They probably look into everything like they say while also just doing what they want at times and then just say “according to feedback” and for some things I think that’s the correct way for others it’s bad.

In the end that’s at least what I hope so that posting here has actual meaning.