Wuk Lamat VOICE ACTING APPRECIATION

[Midare]

You’re a cat person from a video game continent?

So why is her heritage so important?

People do you have any idea how many Regioanl dialects exist within each country, which quirks in the language exist only a few dozend miles appart from region to region.
South America is not a small region there could be a lot of Dialects non of you ever heard because they are usualy not shown.

But beside that who ever directed the Actor could at any time stepped in and said something against it but knowing that heavy use of dialect exist mostly in the english version of FF14, she probably got told she should use it.
And it got approved at the end.

I know, I live here.

She doesn't have the inflections latin americans normally have when speaking, not even by going with "neutral latam voice overs" standards.

The fact that the director heard that and went "Yeah, this meets my standards" speaks very poorly of them.

But on a side note, I do want to point out that the JP voice actor deserves appreciation. Going shoulder to shoulder with an industry beast like Ono with only 9 roles under her belt, she truly tried her best and it shows, specially considering the character she was handed.

[Picothea]

Current Wuk Lamat VA needs to improve on the portrayal of certain emotions compared to VAs in other languages.

She does happiness and sadness well but rage and intense moments felt lacking IMO

For posterity, this is the kind of criticism I think is much more agreeable. There's always room to grow, and I won't pretend the current voice acting was perfect. We can all voice our opinions without any need for personal insults or hatred.

[BakoolJaJa]

Funny how *now* that they've messed up representing different peoples after folks celebrating it for years, it's "just a videogame, bro, it's not *actually* referencing latino american culture, it's cat people :^)" - because, /really/, why should you care about us?

It's not like underrepresented people and cultures have a right to opine on how sections of their culture were presented. It's all just set dressing.

Oh, wait.

They'll spend 14 forum pages telling you how they love the "accuracy" of the VA's fake accent and how much the VA "cares" about correctly representing latinos, but once you point out just how incorrect their statements are they go - "lel it's just a fictional catgirl, who cares?"

So do you "VA praisers" care about these things or not? Make up your minds already. Otherwise every conversation is just moving goalposts. And disrespectful to boot. Using a group of people like a tool, just to make a nonexistent point. And then they are the ones who claim that WE are being toxic and disrespectful just by pointing out the truth about VA quality and inaccuracy. Can't make this up.

[SwadTheFrog]

They'll spend 14 forum pages telling you how they love the "accuracy" of the VA's fake accent and how much the VA "cares" about correctly representing latinos, but once you point out just how incorrect their statements are they go - "lel it's just a fictional catgirl, who cares?"

So do you "VA praisers" care about these things or not? Make up your minds already. Otherwise every conversation is just moving goalposts. And disrespectful to boot. Using a group of people like a tool, just to make a nonexistent point.

Yeah, I really am kind of sick of peope pissing in my mouth and telling me it's raining.

[Antharaes]

You’re a cat person from a video game continent?

Doing your nickname credit I see....Got called on your bs and now trying to weasel out....Way to go!

[Cheapshot]

Funny how *now* that they've messed up representing different peoples after folks celebrating it for years, it's "just a videogame, bro, it's not *actually* referencing latino american culture, it's cat people :^)" - because, /really/, why should you care about us?

It's not like underrepresented people and cultures have a right to opine on how sections of their culture were presented. It's all just set dressing.

Oh, wait.

Nah. It’s because some people are talking like they’ve got the VA’s DNA in a beaker, or their childhood on blueray without receipts. If someone says they’re latino and their dads side of the family is puerto rican and I can’t, after personally looking quite hard, find anything to the contrary, I’m not going to disbelieve them and hoist a pitchfork cause some stranger on a forum says they know more about her than her. I’m sorry but that would be incredibly irresponsible. I wouldn’t want to be treated like that, so I’m not going to treat someone else like that. That’s toxic.

Edit: And like which irl country and accent is Wuk Lamat supposed to represent out of all the influences from all across south and central america anyway? That’s a lot of places and countless accents. This is a fictional place.

[Midare]

Doing your nickname credit I see....Got called on your bs and now trying to weasel out....Way to go!

It wouldn't be the first time I see someone so concerned with those sort of things being snarky when the real deal speaks up.

They'll spend 14 forum pages telling you how they love the "accuracy" of the VA's fake accent and how much the VA "cares" about correctly representing latinos, but once you point out just how incorrect their statements are they go - "lel it's just a fictional catgirl, who cares?"

So do you "VA praisers" care about these things or not? Make up your minds already. Otherwise every conversation is just moving goalposts. And disrespectful to boot. Using a group of people like a tool, just to make a nonexistent point. And then they are the ones who claim that WE are being toxic and disrespectful just by pointing out the truth about VA quality and inaccuracy. Can't make this up.

Sadly, you're wasting your time. People so focused on that will only do so to tick some checkmarks to feel good about themselves. It only matters when its convenient, their goalpost it's just a limbo bar they move for their own convenience.

On the plus side though, it was thanks to what was shared here that I was able to hear the voice work in german and french. Since I don't speak the languages, I'm not familiar with their nuances (even if I was forced to learn french when I was little), but they feel really competent.

[Antharaes]

I can only speak for the German VA and she did a bang up job. She became Wuk Lamat, so to speak.

[BakoolJaJa]

If someone says they’re latino and their dads side of the family is puerto rican and I can’t, after personally looking quite hard, find anything to the contrary, I’m not going to disbelieve them and hoist a pitchfork cause some stranger on a forum says they know more about her than her. I’m sorry but that would be incredibly irresponsible. I wouldn’t want to be treated like that, so I’m not going to treat someone else like that. That’s toxic.

I'm sorry, but show me who is being toxic and who is asking anyone to hoist pitchforks. You are making things up and then claiming some toxicity that isn't there. Nobody is arguing that she's got puerto rican roots on her dad's side of the family. Did you even read my comment where I talked about it?

Let me try and make this a bit more clear. I have Mongolian roots on my dad's side of the family. Now when I say "dad's side of the family" I obviously do not mean that my father is a Mongol, otherwise I'd say just that. No, what I mean is that my extended family on my father's side, grandparents or maybe even grandgrandparents (in my case it's just grandparents but we have no way of knowing those details for Sena) come from Mongolia.

But here's the thing that's actually relevant to the conversation at hand - I am NOT Mongolian. It's kind of obvious, no? I do not live in Mongolia. I do not have a Mongolian citizenship or passport. Do not have a Mongolian husband or child. Do not speak Mongolian. IF I took a role of a character from Mongolia (Azim Steppe says hello, and btw I was blown away by the accuracy in accents back then, even showed it to my dad) then I would FAIL. Why? Because I. Am. NOT. Mongolian. Mongolian language, pronunciation and the corresponding accent when speaking English do not come with DNA. Does this really need to be explained??

Sena's roots do NOT make her Puerto Rican. Same as her German roots do not make her German. Same as my roots do not make me Mongolian. And those same roots do not magically impart correct accents to us. THAT is what the conversation was about. There is NOTHING toxic about these statements. There is no hate in them. You guys argued that her accent is correct because she has latino roots. That is not how DNA works. That is not how accents work.

I am genuinely baffled that I even have to type out this comment, that's how absurd it is that this needs to be explained. Now I'll patiently wait until I get accused of being toxic again... over literally nothing...

[Midare]

Sena's roots do NOT make her Puerto Rican. Same as her German roots do not make her German. Same as my roots do not make me Mongolian. And those same roots do not magically impart correct accents to us. THAT is what the conversation was about. There is NOTHING toxic about these statements. There is no hate in them. You guys argued that her accent is correct because she has latino roots. That is not how DNA works. That is not how accents work.

Say what you will, but I'm pretty sure that the reason I can cook pasta perfectly without paying attention to the time or tasting it as it goes, it's totally because of the Italian part of my DNA.