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  1. #131
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    It's fine to air grievances and such, but if you gotta be like IttyBittyShark and be blatantly transphobic, then you're not airing grievances. You're being a bigot at that point.
    At least she always stays loyal to the topic, which is about voice acting, unlike the same people who continuously got offended on someone else’s behalf over pronouns then got the previous thread closed. Or maybe it’s your intention? I don’t know.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBittyShark View Post
    i mean. use your ears? also he is misgendering himself. not my fault.
    PSA to anyone else in this thread: It's time to stop entertaining transphobes' arguments. This one attacks the voice actor's identity and gets likes anyway. It's plain none of these people are commenting in good faith.
    Let's go back to appreciation, like the thread was intended for.
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  3. #133
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    Honestly, it's kind of ridiculous how many people who have clearly never even heard a person speak Spanish are all over this thread, lying and acting like the accent is authentic. You could be praising the voice acting without lying. THAT is why people come to a "positive" thread and start arguing in it. Because the initial post is full of transparent, obvious nonsense.

    Oh and claiming that the VA is Puerto Riccan. She is NOT Puerto Riccan. Literally just go and open Google, the only reason this misinformation ever spread is because of a tweet that claimed "oh look, she's in Dawntrail and she's even Puerto Riccan" when that is completely incorrect!.

    She's never been to Puerto Rico. She doesn't speak Spanish. She's from Kentucky. If you go opening articles about her biography/life, you'll find that she flaunts her roots from "all over the world."

    Supposedly she has GERMAN, CUBAN, DOMINCIAN, PUERTO RICAN and more EUROPEAN (whatever that means) roots. Aka like many Americans she did a crappy MyHeritage test, saw that she has 1% of each and started telling people she's got ROOTS. Meanwhile she and her parents are just from the USA.

    So please get out of here with this nonsense about how she's doing an accurate accent and about how she cares about picking appropriate roles. Find something legitimate to praise about the performance.
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  4. #134
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    Learning to use the ignore list after I began using the forum. It works great! Anyway, hearing from others how Dawntrail's English localization has gone out of its way to hire actors belonging to the represented regions is very uplifting. I'm looking forward to hearing more of them all in the patches.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheapshot View Post
    Why would I think people are born with accents, and what do you know about her exactly? There’s very very little info out there. You assuredly don’t know who her parents are, and what their accents are like. Why are you gatekeeping the heritage of someone else?
    You can't gatekeep someone's heritage. You're either born living and experiencing a cullture and it's language or you're not. And we *actually* know the heritage of a lot of the VAs of the expansion. The accent has outright been *stated* to be fake by Sena of all people, too - but hey, I'm sure you don't care about this, because it's not YOUR culture and YOUR language.

    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    The accent is closer to Spaniard / Cuban / Mexican than any other Hispanic culture. Tacos were one food featured in one local of the expansion and it just so happens tacos (of different forms) are very popular among majority of hispanic cultures and cuisine. That is quite literally the safest food option if I had to chose any one thing that has graced every culture equally. To say otherwise is outright disingenuous.

    Beyond that, we can agree to disagree but yeah it's terminally online behavior. First, you take real life and are trying to overly transpose that to a video game. Literally complaining that tacos being a feature is "racist" or stereotypical and not "representation" or whatever bs you convinced your head canon tural should be. Ultimately, Tural is NOT any of these real life locations, so trying evaluate it as such or perpetuate perception onto it is terminally online main character syndrome in full swing. It's not your world to build, it doesnt live off your beliefs either. At best, hispanic cultures are an influence and that's about it. It's not meant to be a 1 to 1.
    Here's the thing : I don't care about those things usualy, like I told you. Seeing superficial "insipired" things just made me laugh a bit or go "neat!" because at this point I really am just used to Latino American stuff having bad depictions that are either incorrerct ,or just "Crime". - what I care about is the sheer hypocrisy of what this was. We were told, multiple times, that DT was going to be this wholle thing that celebrated and "respected" latino-american cultures, that it was going to directly refer to these things and do it properly, with an "alll latino cast" for the VAing roles. Instead, we got tacos, haha funny alpacas, and a bunch of americans puttiing on fake accents. That's just kind of really offensive. If we weren't told this, I'd care a lot less and laugh it off. But we /were/ told that.

    That's the issue. But sure, keep making bad faith arguments and dismisssing them as "terminally online". If you like it when people spit on your face and tell you otherwise, congratulations, I guess? The more you talk, the more I'm absolutely certain you're either making these on purpose, or you're trolling, and I'm leaning towards the latter. But sure, "agree to disagree".
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    Last edited by SwadTheFrog; 08-05-2024 at 07:53 PM.

  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    Learning to use the ignore list after I began using the forum. It works great! Anyway, hearing from others how Dawntrail's English localization has gone out of its way to hire actors belonging to the represented regions is very uplifting. I'm looking forward to hearing more of them all in the patches.
    I'm someone from the represented region and I think I've not been represented well.

    South americans don't sound like that, and we can pronounce the "ph" sound.

    Fitting the role it's more important than being of a distant heritage they don't hold anymore.
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  7. #137
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    Current Wuk Lamat VA needs to improve on the portrayal of certain emotions compared to VAs in other languages.

    She does happiness and sadness well but rage and intense moments felt lacking IMO
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    I'm someone from the represented region and I think I've not been represented well.
    You’re a cat person from a video game continent?
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  9. #139
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    People do you have any idea how many Regioanl dialects exist within each country, which quirks in the language exist only a few dozend miles appart from region to region.
    South America is not a small region there could be a lot of Dialects non of you ever heard because they are usualy not shown.

    But beside that who ever directed the Actor could at any time stepped in and said something against it but knowing that heavy use of dialect exist mostly in the english version of FF14, she probably got told she should use it.
    And it got approved at the end.
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheapshot View Post
    You’re a cat person from a video game continent?
    Funny how *now* that they've messed up representing different peoples after folks celebrating it for years, it's "just a videogame, bro, it's not *actually* referencing latino american culture, it's cat people :^)" - because, /really/, why should you care about us?

    It's not like underrepresented people and cultures have a right to opine on how sections of their culture were presented. It's all just set dressing.

    Oh, wait.
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