Consumable arrows

[Arcell]

Yes, I am well aware of who can make what ingot, you sure have a knack for stating the obvious. As I do not invest my time at this point in arm/bls as much at this point, it was not relavent to my personal position.
But to tell us what we will and will not miss is a bit of pressumtuous ignorance.

You keep saying "we" but I think you mean to say "I". Claiming that your opinion applies to other Goldsmiths is a bit presumptuous. Honestly, Goldsmiths have the least to do with this argument out of all the classes. They make one ingot that is used for arrows, Mythril, that's it. Bronze, Iron, Steel and Cobalt are all made solely by Armorers and Blacksmiths. However with your logic, since I have Blacksmith and Armorer well into their 20s, my opinion here is more valid than yours.

None of that changes the fact that your attepting to justify to 5 classes, why they should have the most consumed consumable in the game, relative to them, removed. Are you saying you want to claim my perspective is invalide simply because some of the recipe items can be used else where? That is almost laughable.

Most consumed item in the game, yes. Highest volume of creation in the game, also true. It balances out. Also I'd say at this point food items may be consumed more, proportionately. One synth makes 333 arrows, so 3 synths to a stack of 999. That's a lot of items for only 3 items used. I'm claiming that your argument holds little value because by losing out on the arrow creation, crafters and gatherers aren't losing out on much. The ingots can be used elsewhere so Blacksmiths and Armorers could still create them for the purposes of income and leveling.

Again you pressume to tell us as gatherers, how we will and wil not feel about this. From a gatheres perspective, I am telling you your wrong. Your perspective does not apply to everyone.

Again, there you go with that "us" nonsense. Start learning to speak for yourself and let others do the same. From a gatherer's perspective I'm telling you that you are wrong. Your perspective does not apply to everyone.

Also you should probably start bringing up some facts to support your argument. All you're doing is telling me that my opinion is wrong. I've at least brought some elements to consider to the table.

[Coglin]

You keep saying "we" but I think you mean to say "I". Claiming that your opinion applies to other Goldsmiths is a bit presumptuous. Honestly, Goldsmiths have the least to do with this argument out of all the classes. They make one ingot that is used for arrows, Mythril, that's it. Bronze, Iron, Steel and Cobalt are all made solely by Armorers and Blacksmiths. However with your logic, since I have Blacksmith and Armorer well into their 20s, my opinion here is more valid than yours.

Did you eat alot of paint chips as a child?


Most consumed item in the game, yes. Highest volume of creation in the game, also true. It balances out. Also I'd say at this point food items may be consumed more, proportionately. One synth makes 333 arrows, so 3 synths to a stack of 999. That's a lot of items for only 3 items used. I'm claiming that your argument holds little value because by losing out on the arrow creation, crafters and gatherers aren't losing out on much. The ingots can be used elsewhere so Blacksmiths and Armorers could still create them for the purposes of income and leveling.

Thats just your opinion. Some disagree with it. You keep attempting to convince us that because you claim an arguement has little value that its fact.

Again, there you go with that "us" nonsense. Start learning to speak for yourself and let others do the same. From a gatherer's perspective I'm telling you that you are wrong. Your perspective does not apply to everyone.

Why? It was okay when you did it. just following suit with you.

Also you should probably start bringing up some facts to support your argument. All you're doing is telling me that my opinion is wrong. I've at least brought some elements to consider to the table.
I have as many facts as you. I have yet to tell you your opinion is wrong. Thats what you keep doing.

Go back and re-read the thread. You seem to be quit confussed about who said what and when.

True however BLMs can just stand still to regain MP, as well as have Bards sing or use some of their own MP regen skills. Archers can't do that with arrows.

There regen of MP is limited in battle. Especially solo.
But yeah bards can aid in MP replenishment, very much like DoH can replenish a bards arrows.