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  1. #2261
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    Serilyn's Avatar
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    Osienthus Llasinnia
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    Tonberry
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    Miner Lv 90
    Definitely ridiculous to harass the voice actor. She's just doing her job. If you dislike the character, its down to the writers (but I shouldn't need to say this, don't harass the writers either! They're also just doing what they're paid to.) If you dislike the characters voice, yes the voice actor provided it, but there's a lot more involved than just the one person in the end result. It depends on how they were directed to act, how things were translated etc. Its okay to say I dislike the voice or character, I think these things are wrong with it. It is not okay to lash out at real people over it.

    By the same token, it also doesn't help when people who like the character go and try to say anyone who doesn't like it must have an agenda based on the VA... All this does is alienate people who half the time didn't even know anything about the VA in the first place. People are allowed to dislike something and will often have a variety of reasons why.

    I dislike Wuk Lamat. I don't like how she is forced on the player in virtually every moment of the MSQ and seems to take the lions share of any writing resources - with nothing to show for it. However I also didn't like her from the start as I dislike very naive and idealistic characters. I myself think the VA is fine and so have no problems with it. I found some of the crowd/random NPC voices a bit overly loud and jarring like they were in some ARR crowd scenes, Y'shtola had something weird going on with her voice that made it sound worse in quality than the others, and I found the Shaaloani voices all very over the top and loud, but I suspect that was deliberate and due to the theme they were going for. None of my likes or dislikes are things that require personal attacks against real people. I think we should all be able to agree that is unacceptable.
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  2. #2262
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    DeadlyAlbatross's Avatar
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    Gneus Maximus
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Might get hated for that comment, but voice-acting of DT makes me miss Elpis part of EW and ShB Emet'Selch.
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  3. #2263
    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    She's making it up. If you actually see the context of her tweet, she's replying to someone who said they didn't like the performance and she's acting like people are giving her death threats. Disliking the performance and expressing that to her are not the same as all the crap she's pretending is getting thrown her way.
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  4. #2264
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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I dislike her performance of the character and wuk lamat herself, would never even think of harassing the va. thats just weird of people
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  5. #2265
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    OdinelStarrei's Avatar
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    Odinel Starrei
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Yep - so much for all those Community awards.

    As one of the threads about this matter on Reddit states: "Way to go. We're one of THOSE fandoms now.."

    Disgusting.
    Yeah, how is this surprising for literally anyone though?

    "NOW?" We've BEEN like this. East or West, it doesn't matter. It seems like every tier some raid group, whether they were guilty or not, is the target of some kind of harassment campaign. Remember what happened to JoCat, harassment by the community so bad he had to essentially wipe himself from the internet? Scottzone? The public social suicide of the cheating WF team last year that was overtly supported by many people like a lynch mob?

    We've SEEN this. If someone related to or frequently plays XIV told me they haven't been harassed/stalked/insulted, I'd actually be more surprised than if they have been. That's where we're at. It's prevalent everywhere, inescapable as long as people exist in those spaces. Even if people say "It's a minority of people who do that." when you're operating with a fanbase of hundreds of thousands of players, even a fraction of a percent of that number still means potentially hundreds of unhinged elements.

    And it only takes one or two dedicated ones to completely crumble someone, especially without shutting down their social media. And that's assuming you take every report as absolute fact.
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    Last edited by OdinelStarrei; 08-03-2024 at 04:02 PM.

  6. #2266
    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    There I went and snagged it myself.
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  7. #2267
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    4clubbedace's Avatar
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    Viorel Amala
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    I dislike her performance of the character and wuk lamat herself, would never even think of harassing the va. thats just weird of people
    There's plenty of parasocial weirdos who can't control themselves and take it on to be shitheads, hell look at main character of the day what is obssed with 14 streamers

    Normal people don't do it, MOST people don't do that, but if say, 200000 people see your work but 50 are obsessed with you and keep dming you, remaking when they get blocked , and keep harassing you,

    It's going to feel like a whole lot, overwhelming ,

    If you're a public figure it's in your best interest to not have social media at all , or lock dms and replies/@'s to selected anyways, just a handful of people are enough to really muck it all up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    She's making it up. If you actually see the context of her tweet, she's replying to someone who said they didn't like the performance and she's acting like people are giving her death threats. Disliking the performance and expressing that to her are not the same as all the crap she's pretending is getting thrown her way.
    You're close to being one of the weirdos
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  8. #2268
    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4clubbedace View Post
    You're close to being one of the weirdos
    Because I can do a generalized Twitter search to get the broader context of her 'harassment'?
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  9. #2269
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    Carin-Eri's Avatar
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    Carin Eri
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    Yeah, how is this surprising for literally anyone though?

    "NOW?" We've BEEN like this. East or West, it doesn't matter. It seems like every tier some raid group, whether they were guilty or not, is the target of some kind of harassment campaign. Remember what happened to JoCat, harassment by the community so bad he had to essentially wipe himself from the internet? Scottzone? The public social suicide of the cheating WF team last year that was overtly supported by many people like a lynch mob?

    We've SEEN this. If someone related to or frequently plays XIV told me they haven't been harassed/stalked/insulted, I'd actually be more surprised than if they have been. That's where we're at. It's prevalent everywhere, inescapable as long as people exist in those spaces. Even if people say "It's a minority of people who do that." when you're operating with a fanbase of hundreds of thousands of players, even a fraction of a percent of that number still means potentially hundreds of unhinged elements.

    And it only takes one or two dedicated ones to completely crumble someone, especially without shutting down their social media. And that's assuming you take every report as absolute fact.
    You're right - it isn't surprising. But that doesn't make it any less disappointing.
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  10. #2270
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    4clubbedace's Avatar
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    Viorel Amala
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Because I can do a generalized Twitter search to get the broader context of her 'harassment'?
    Your entire first page is about complaints about specifically about wuks eng performance, very little about problems in the narrative and thematics of the story that are weakened by the bad writing and missed potential of, example, Galool and zoralls jaja have nothing constructive to say , just wuk lamat, and just the eng version

    So yes, you're another voice in the dull choir, yes, you're close to being one of the weirdos and it's probably for the best you're quarantined here
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