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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    How did you recognize it was bots?
    Good question. With the pile of crafters everywhere I feel like this is more of a ‘people undercut me and I don’t like it so they must be bots!’ problem.

    This is just how a free market works or to put it another way. There is not enough demand for what is being crafted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IzailiaRen View Post
    Good question. With the pile of crafters everywhere I feel like this is more of a ‘people undercut me and I don’t like it so they must be bots!’ problem.

    This is just how a free market works or to put it another way. There is not enough demand for what is being crafted.
    There might be a few bots but generally it's just honest crafters undercutting each other.

    There is demand out there but a lot of that demand is from players that don't want to pay the current prices. Once prices drop down to a reasonable range, there will be a healthy volume of sales.
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    There might be a few bots but generally it's just honest crafters undercutting each other.

    There is demand out there but a lot of that demand is from players that don't want to pay the current prices. Once prices drop down to a reasonable range, there will be a healthy volume of sales.
    this is such... bull.

    "honest crafters" do not cycle through their retainers on a regular schedule every 10 minutes, they do not change their price to undercut every 5, they do not flood the market, because "honest crafters" are likely out harvesting or playing the game.

    OP this has been ongoing for a while. there are bot crafting rings which have their products across servers, all produced by one of these "honest crafters"

    they make gil for RMT, and they make a lot. SE.. doesnt care. you can submit detailed reports to the STF, and nothing ever gets done. you CAN beat the botters, but thats treating it like a job, and burns you out.

    these days I craft for my friends since I have come to realize SE just doesnt care and will do nothing about them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    this is such... bull.

    "honest crafters" do not cycle through their retainers on a regular schedule every 10 minutes, they do not change their price to undercut every 5, they do not flood the market, because "honest crafters" are likely out harvesting or playing the game.

    OP this has been ongoing for a while. there are bot crafting rings which have their products across servers, all produced by one of these "honest crafters"

    they make gil for RMT, and they make a lot. SE.. doesnt care. you can submit detailed reports to the STF, and nothing ever gets done. you CAN beat the botters, but thats treating it like a job, and burns you out.

    these days I craft for my friends since I have come to realize SE just doesnt care and will do nothing about them
    This isn't bull, you can literally go hang out in either of the DT cities and watch people sit there for hours crafting and running back and forth to the bell. At least is the case in Diabolos.

    Some people, surprisingly enough, do treat this game like a job lol. So much so to the point that they log in during actual work hours as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IzailiaRen View Post
    Good question. With the pile of crafters everywhere I feel like this is more of a ‘people undercut me and I don’t like it so they must be bots!’ problem.

    This is just how a free market works or to put it another way. There is not enough demand for what is being crafted.
    I suppose if your items get undercut by a fixed amount within seconds every time your adjust the price, it could be a bot. I often undercut just to make the price easier to type. (If the lowest current price is 1959 for example, I'll put mine up for 1900)
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