Attempting to diagnose Dawntrail's difficulty

[TabrisOmbrelame]

Dawntrail is harder than EW, that's just a fact.

BUT, it's still doable easily. People need to lift their eyes over the hotkey bar and look at the area, the boss and what he cast.

Of course, failing is ok. It's a matter of fail and retry. But let's be honest. None of the mecanics of Dawntrail inside dungeon are at the level of an extreme or Savage.

People complain about multiple mecanic at once ? We had that since Stormblood, nothing new.

People complain about non-telegraph AoE ? Maybe start looking at what the boss cast or how he move, that could give you a hint.

The boss hit too hard ? You have tools to reduce damage for you or the entire party, read your spell.

I do agree that player who returns after a long time can be rusty, and every player doesn't share the same skill/knowledge. Also, I think that using a skip to reach lvl 90 immediatly is a REALLY BAD IDEA when you know nothing of a MMO.

Also, you can't expect to have the same difficulty inside a dungeon from level 15 to 100. The difficulty HAS to increase at some point.

[jdtuggey]

Dawntrail is harder than EW, that's just a fact.

That's debatable. Once I got used to it, it started feeling like ffxiv has always felt. Usually, we don't say about facts that they are debatable. It's not harder, it is however more dynamic and engaging.
There's nothing to "diagnose" about dawntrail's difficulty, it's fine. It's still easier than the game has been for the majority of its lifespan.
Also I don't think this will turn back, because Dawntrail's difficulty is a slight "turning back" moment. Would really send a poor message if they turned back again.
People just need to get used to it, understand that we are all playing with lower ilvl difference to content than we used to in Endwalker, because we don't have 2000 options to gear, and stop letting people who say Dawntrail is hard influence them.
Like, there's evolution and changes every expansion, and there's people complaining about that sort of stuff every new expansion, cause it's jarring to be clearing content with ease because you are overgeared and then suddenly getting into content where you're not anymore.
This discussion is getting so tired, I'm not sure why we need yet another post. ;o;

[Mooserocka33]

That's debatable. Once I got used to it, it started feeling like ffxiv has always felt. Usually, we don't say about facts that they are debatable. It's not harder, it is however more dynamic and engaging.
There's nothing to "diagnose" about dawntrail's difficulty, it's fine. It's still easier than the game has been for the majority of its lifespan.
Also I don't think this will turn back, because Dawntrail's difficulty is a slight "turning back" moment. Would really send a poor message if they turned back again.
People just need to get used to it, understand that we are all playing with lower ilvl difference to content than we used to in Endwalker, because we don't have 2000 options to gear, and stop letting people who say Dawntrail is hard influence them.
Like, there's evolution and changes every expansion, and there's people complaining about that sort of stuff every new expansion, cause it's jarring to be clearing content with ease because you are overgeared and then suddenly getting into content where you're not anymore.
This discussion is getting so tired, I'm not sure why we need yet another post. ;o;

Exactly , Savage even feels just as easy. It really is not that bad. I think these people were shocked by a few deaths until they got used to it. once you learn things most people are fine. I have seen the whole its too hard die down alot as people got gear and seen everything.