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  1. #7891
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    My headcanon is that the only people playing healers are people who are either in it for a free ride or can’t handle a more complicated job.
    Worst are the Sylphie Scholars who hope Eos can do everything as they pretty much auto-follow lol.
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  2. #7892
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Worst are the Sylphie Scholars who hope Eos can do everything as they pretty much auto-follow lol.
    For as frustrating the ARC SCH/SMN shared system is, it did a good job of converting DPS into healers who DPS. Up to level 30 when an ARC became a SCH in ARR you basically had the ARC damage kit so you already knew what your damage rotation was because you leveled with it for 30 levels and got decently used to healing because you got CNJ to at least 15.
    Now when you go from ARC to SCH you get thrown into a completely different playstyle.
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  3. #7893
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    Maltothoris's Avatar
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    Malto Thoris
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    I do not generally follow the races but how does the 9 hours compare to other first tier clears? For whatever reason I feel as if they generally get cleared within 12 hours.
    Generally the first tiers have usually taken about 14-17 hours.
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  4. #7894
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    Grann-Goro's Avatar
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    Grann Goro
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    I've seen that too. Depending of the case, it's healer struggling with the raise in difficulty, or more rarely, healers that refuse to stop playing like they did previously, and refuse to use GCD to heal once in a while. With those, making one small error nearly always mean death, especially if you have no self healing (well if you're a caster). Hyper potion have become useless, 11k life is like 10%, when they were introduced they were 25% of your life.

    Honestly, if I welcomed the raise in difficulty in endgame content a month ago, I'm slowly getting annoyed by it, since it makes obvious how the average player is bad at the game (and I mean that in a general sense, it's not targeted to healers). And that's coming from someone who is very mid at it.
    I think it's because most people just weren't trained to this level of difficulty before, but as time passes - and if the game is correctly made (is it ?) - we can hope a good portion of players will slowly get better.
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  6. #7895
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    Bobby66's Avatar
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    Paper Wait
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    Generally the first tiers have usually taken about 14-17 hours.
    Thanks for the info. Does the clear time go down 3ach expansion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

  7. #7896
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    Maltothoris's Avatar
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    Malto Thoris
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Starting from Stormblood, the first tier took 16 hours. In Shadowbringers and then endwalker, it took 14 for both of them.

    Edit: Then for this one it took 9 hours.
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  8. #7897
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    EusisLandale's Avatar
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    Eira Landale
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    It's a little frustrating on DPS when the healer thinks I can survive a raidwide at 30% HP as a squishy, but it is what it is.
    Usually the only time I see some DPS get left near death is when they feel like disappearing off into the horizon to be out of range. Or they keep going out of their way to stack up so many vulns there's basically no difference between 30 and 90 or even 100% and likely have Brink of Death as well.
    Granted, I have noticed the general decline in healers so maybe I'll see actual full on neglect eventually.
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  9. #7898
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    Starting from Stormblood, the first tier took 16 hours. In Shadowbringers and then endwalker, it took 14 for both of them.

    Edit: Then for this one it took 9 hours.
    more players, better more stable connection and overall skill improvement of hardcore savage players. Unless cbu3 do a blizzard and overtune savage on a purpose the world firsts will only get faster.
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  10. #7899
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Oh how I wish they would have the courage to do a REAL shake-up of the savage formula.
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  11. #7900
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    more players, better more stable connection and overall skill improvement of hardcore savage players. Unless cbu3 do a blizzard and overtune savage on a purpose the world firsts will only get faster.
    We're getting reports of even the PF progging M4S right now. It's not just the "hardcores" finding this easy.
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