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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    If you have not noticed a difference, then one could assume that you have alternated combo starters already, which would mean you have played the job wrong. That is just an assumption, and is not a criticism of you or your playstyle, mind you, just an objective fact to consider.
    For people that did play the class right however (making a conscious note of the timer of Noxious Gnash, and deciding how and when to reapply it), they do notice a change in how the class plays, and that should be considered.
    How does alternating combo starters mean playing the class wrong? I start with Noxious Gnash then go into Swiftscale and repeat until Awaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyclaw726 View Post
    How does alternating combo starters mean playing the class wrong? I start with Noxious Gnash then go into Swiftscale and repeat until Awaken.
    Dread Fangs, and Dreadwinder, both applied 20s of Noxious Gnash, up to a maximum of 40seconds.
    When playing the class right, you never wanted to use either Dread Fangs or Dreadwinder before the Noxious Gnash Debuff was below 20s duration. Doing so would mean playing the class wrong, as you do less damage (Dread Fangs was weaker than Steel Fangs), and also wasting ressources, as any Noxious Gnash generated above 40s would disappear into the void.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Dread Fangs, and Dreadwinder, both applied 20s of Noxious Gnash, up to a maximum of 40seconds.
    When playing the class right, you never wanted to use either Dread Fangs or Dreadwinder before the Noxious Gnash Debuff was below 20s duration. Doing so would mean playing the class wrong, as you do less damage (Dread Fangs was weaker than Steel Fangs), and also wasting ressources, as any Noxious Gnash generated above 40s would disappear into the void.
    That makes sense. I don't class that as playing the class wrong per say as rather not playing the class optimally which is something I have never done. I always do what is more comfortable to me, I have more fun that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyclaw726 View Post
    That makes sense. I don't class that as playing the class wrong per say as rather not playing the class optimally which is something I have never done. I always do what is more comfortable to me, I have more fun that way.
    While we could argue whether that is simply wrong or unoptimized, I am sure you can see how people that enjoyed tracking the debuff and are now left with no other gameplay to make up for it are sad about it, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    While we could argue whether that is simply wrong or unoptimized, I am sure you can see how people that enjoyed tracking the debuff and are now left with no other gameplay to make up for it are sad about it, no?
    I can certainly see why they would be upset though I'd question how they found that enjoyable but I've already shown what I find enjoyable so perhaps I shouldn't question xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyclaw726 View Post
    That makes sense. I don't class that as playing the class wrong per say as rather not playing the class optimally which is something I have never done. I always do what is more comfortable to me, I have more fun that way.
    If the people like yourself who were already alternating them without tracking the debuff never noticed the change, then it should be reverted and you can still keep having fun with an unoptimized rotation. You wouldn't even notice it's been reverted back.
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