How many more times must our Living Dead get griefed?

[Lorika]

How am I supposed to know if I don't know you? For all I know, you're one of those guys who zone in, rush through and don't care about your group... which is the majority of tanks you meet in duties. And you can't even prove you're different, because a duty is done after a few minutes, way too short for your group mates to notice.

Sorry, but you might have to live with the fact that, at least in duties, with random people, you might not be able to do whatever you want, even if you're god's gift to mankind and the greatest DRK to ever walk Eorzea.

Oh yeah thoses tanks.... The one that hit run without warning, without checking your position, without minding the dungeon layout (wall, visual obstacle) and without wondering how many lilies/Aetherflux/Addergil you have left and the state of your GCD/oGCD.... ofc those type of tanks doesn't use mit and then fault you for dying...

Yeah thoses tanks....

[FuwafuwaMii]

Exactly, and I have no way of knowing beforehand. So when I see HP dropping suddenly, I stop spamming DPS spells and drop a big instant heal.

That's not griefing. It's self-defence.

[Lucyfurr1988]

Just communicate with your healers. Living dead should be used proactively anyway. You should be holding it as an oh fk button

[Lucyfurr1988]

Just communicate with your healers. Living dead should be used proactively anyway. You should be holding it as an oh fk button

Shouldnt* bloody autocorrect and not finding a way to edit on phone

[Lucyfurr1988]

I should correct myself a little bit here. Self Sustain is a core component of what makes a tank be a tank. 12AM rants be like this. And tanking is easy, but it is not braindead. If you want to see what braindead actually looks like, go play Star Trek Online, a game where you can put all of your keybinds on the same key and just spam that key to activate all of your abilities in the order they appear in your hotbar, and where you don't even have to pilot your ship because of how overpowered the AoE is in that game. Now that's braindead. The game literally just plays itself. Or go play any of those idle gacha games. Those are super braindead. Healers are more braindead to play than tanks are. At least we still have a 1-2-3 combo, and it looks like positioning the boss is coming back with Dawntrail.

No. Mitigation is what makes a tank a tank. It’s supposed to be a healers
Job to keep your hp up.

[Crafoutis]

DRK's are a public service to give the bored healers something to heal.

We WAR's appreciate your service in acting as a pacifier for all of the crying healers of the forums. Please, continue to be made of paper. We WAR's will continue to receive no changes like in 7.05, because we're perfect and nothing needs to change.

But you are the true heroes, making healers feel useful.

[Kyanari]

I actually agree with OP here though it's more like a lot of healers are unaware how exactly Living Dead works. Compared from Superbolide, LD doesn't do anything until triggered. Why would healers let their tank die in the first place? Sometimes popping LD doesn't make any sense lol but I do like this mechanic. Whether you use a macro or not, the outcome is the same, they will waste your LD unintentionally in most cases.

[Karkarov]

.... Grief your living dead? WAT? Living dead is an old school mmo style ability (aka it is trash in FF14 because this game is not about old school tanking) so outside of planned scenarios it should never be used as anything other than a "OH S#^@%" button. In a pug run with random people you probably shouldn't be trying to plan out it's use as that takes longer than just continuing at a normal pace, and there is no guarantee the healer will even play along or get it to begin with. In short... living dead is pretty much useless outside of set groups that have good communication an you can plan for it. That said if you proc it, but the healer wakes up and heals you out before you die.... you care why? You got healed that is all that actually matters. If you then die because they just immediately stop healing and you have no mitigations at all.... I am calling that suspect because that does not happen very often.

Also please... self sustain does not equal tank. In fact in any other mmo most tanks have little to no self sustain, and certainly nothing close to what a warrior in this game has. Even still in hard content like savage self sustain is irrelevant and real healing is still very much required.

[AnjouMaaka]

.... Grief your living dead? WAT? Living dead is an old school mmo style ability (aka it is trash in FF14 because this game is not about old school tanking) so outside of planned scenarios it should never be used as anything other than a "OH S#^@%" button. In a pug run with random people you probably shouldn't be trying to plan out it's use as that takes longer than just continuing at a normal pace, and there is no guarantee the healer will even play along or get it to begin with. In short... living dead is pretty much useless outside of set groups that have good communication an you can plan for it. That said if you proc it, but the healer wakes up and heals you out before you die.... you care why? You got healed that is all that actually matters. If you then die because they just immediately stop healing and you have no mitigations at all.... I am calling that suspect because that does not happen very often.

Also please... self sustain does not equal tank. In fact in any other mmo most tanks have little to no self sustain, and certainly nothing close to what a warrior in this game has. Even still in hard content like savage self sustain is irrelevant and real healing is still very much required.

Someone ignored over half the stuff that I've looped, a lot, and I'm not repeating myself again. Learn to read.

Self sustain is a core component of tanking and saying it's not shows how little you know about tanking in FFXIV. How tanking is designed in other MMOs is irrelevant.

[AnjouMaaka]

No. Mitigation is what makes a tank a tank. It’s supposed to be a healers
Job to keep your hp up.

If healers want every tank to require healing in dungeons, then they are playing the wrong MMO.