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  1. #21
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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
    I mean it's to be seen yet, but SE love patterns, next expac will maybe be Tank and P Ranged DPS. SB was a melee DPS and a Caster DPS, ShB was tank and P Ranged DPS, EW was healer and Melee DPS, DT Melee DPS and caster DPS, so logic might dictate we will get a tank and P Ranged DPS next expac.
    A new tank would just be a cosmetic update that adds literally nothing of practical value.
    It's just going to be relegated to being another Warrior downgrade.
    ''Oh look this tank has a 123 builder and 4 spender just like the others''
    ''This tank has an AoE ogcd and a single target ogcd on a shared cooldown! Just like Warrior!''
    ''This tank has an invuln on a longer cooldown than Holmgang''
    ''This tank has a party mit that's worse than shake it off''
    ''This tank has an ability that gives them 3 stacks of their spender for FREE!
    ''But it has this unique mechanic that's kinda just a weaker, less practical version of blood whetting!''

    Like do people genuinely even WANT a new tank?
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  2. #22
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    Tunda's Avatar
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    A new tank would just be a cosmetic update that adds literally nothing of practical value.
    It's just going to be relegated to being another Warrior downgrade.
    ''Oh look this tank has a 123 builder and 4 spender just like the others''
    ''This tank has an AoE ogcd and a single target ogcd on a shared cooldown! Just like Warrior!''
    ''This tank has an invuln on a longer cooldown than Holmgang''
    ''This tank has a party mit that's worse than shake it off''
    ''This tank has an ability that gives them 3 stacks of their spender for FREE!
    ''But it has this unique mechanic that's kinda just a weaker, less practical version of blood whetting!''
    Like do people genuinely even WANT a new tank?
    People ofcourse want another tank

    But they don't want another downgrade Warrior

    I dont mind the simplicity but it have to be with decision making..

    Like : do I have to build up 123 to do more damage or to restore health? If didn't restore my health I will lose control of my hp and die

    If I use my 1 min cooldown I have to build up my sustain first because I will be busy with my 1 min combo

    Something like that could give us more options
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    Last edited by Tunda; 07-24-2024 at 08:37 PM.

  3. #23
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    d3adh0g's Avatar
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    Indha Moore
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 90
    Maybe, just maybe, they shall fix DRK which currently is barely a tank, instead of adding a new one. Crazy idea, I know...
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  4. #24
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    Tanks are already 80% the same kit what to homogenize more?
    Remove what little MP usage Paladin and DRK has left, move burst phase entirely onto 1 button, only 1 OGCD skill that you have to hit off CD for all tanks, no more damage boost skills like rampart or no mercy, Gnashing combo just has a 30s cooldown and doesn't cost any cartridges, TBN is just a 25s mitigation, salted earth removed from DRK

    Y'know, just to kind of REALLY stick the leucotome (Lobotomy instrument) in the brain portion and REALLY give it a good rattle and kill off what little brain functions the tank role still has left.
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  5. #25
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    aodhan_ofinnegain's Avatar
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    Aodhan O'finnegain
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    A new tank would just be a cosmetic update that adds literally nothing of practical value.
    It's just going to be relegated to being another Warrior downgrade.
    ''Oh look this tank has a 123 builder and 4 spender just like the others''
    ''This tank has an AoE ogcd and a single target ogcd on a shared cooldown! Just like Warrior!''
    ''This tank has an invuln on a longer cooldown than Holmgang''
    ''This tank has a party mit that's worse than shake it off''
    ''This tank has an ability that gives them 3 stacks of their spender for FREE!
    ''But it has this unique mechanic that's kinda just a weaker, less practical version of blood whetting!''

    Like do people genuinely even WANT a new tank?
    I mean I am just pointing out the pattern that is forming, what actually happens I don't know, I already said, give us one more physical ranged and call it a day. we have enough jobs in the game now period. They can properly start designing and balancing new jobs then without needing to dedicate so much time on developing animations and job ideas, and instead look toward working on what we have.

    I also said chances of it happening are slim when jobs help sell expacs.
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  6. #26
    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Arome Framboise
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I want a tank with a big hammer and a lot of cast
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  7. #27
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    I dont think they need to keep adding more jobs. With one more phys ranged everything will be even.
    If they keep adding jobs the game will become impossible to balance and it'll be impossible for the Devs to constantly work on each job every expansion. Everything has to stop eventually and I'm sure the Devs know they only have so many jobs left before it's impossible to upkeep them all.
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  8. #28
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    Balmung_Griffin's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Balmung Griffin
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Nah, we don't need new jobs, we need the existing jobs to be unique and fun!
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  9. #29
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    Ayan Calvesse
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    We shouldn't be expecting a new healer or Tank for years...if the current logic holds it would be 4 classes per suffix. So our next 2 jobs would be aiming (to bring them to 4) and either maiming/scouting/striking.
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  10. #30
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    Karkarov's Avatar
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    Varian Black
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    Kraken
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by d3adh0g View Post
    Maybe, just maybe, they shall fix DRK which currently is barely a tank, instead of adding a new one. Crazy idea, I know...
    I really wonder if most of the people on this forum even play Dark Knight or know how it works lol? Dark Knight is more of a tank than warrior is.
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