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  1. #11
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    Kesey's Avatar
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    Kesey Stryker
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I believe when Gunbreaker was announced, Yoshi-p made a comment at the fanfest that they made the new tank because Stormblood adding two dps made tank ques terrible and they needed to balance the group finder, so we got a new tank.

    So really the question we need to ask is "Are ques so unbalanced with dps that we need more support classes?"
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    I believe when Gunbreaker was announced, Yoshi-p made a comment at the fanfest that they made the new tank because Stormblood adding two dps made tank ques terrible and they needed to balance the group finder, so we got a new tank.

    So really the question we need to ask is "Are ques so unbalanced with dps that we need more support classes?"
    It is unbalanced 100%

    Tanking a que more than 5 min is bad for the game
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  3. #13
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    On some level even Squenix knows this, which is why we got another 2 DPS expansion.
    To be fair, this does follow Square Enix's pattern, and we know how much SE loooooves sticking to the same pattern. Heavensward was kind of an outliner since we got three jobs, which they've said they'll never do again. So Stormblood moved up.

    That all being said, I've long held the belief we won't see another tank or healer. They'll either do double DPS or I could actually see 8.0 being where they drop to one job per expansion. Especially with the supposed job identity rework.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    ServantNaoya's Avatar
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    Rat Wildheart
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Here's the thing though. We need a caster tank. It's the easy, free option for a unique tank.

    And no, Paladin doesn't count as a caster tank, the only time you hard cast a spell is the opener. I mean actual caster.
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  5. #15
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    EponaTBHSMH's Avatar
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    Gyalva Guillen
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    There's high chances we get a new tank in 8.0
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  6. #16
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    There is absolutely room for another tank. The only thing that would stop anyone from adding another tank would be a lack of ideas -- even bad ideas.
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by mallleable View Post
    There is absolutely room for another tank. The only thing that would stop anyone from adding another tank would be a lack of ideas -- even bad ideas.
    What if we had a tank that did 123 as their core rotation, spent 50 gauge on a big attack, had a snap to boss gap closer, and a 40% mit and a 25s short mit
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  8. #18
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    Crithril Orthorien
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    There's already PLD and WAR, why do we need more tanks?
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  9. #19
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Not gonna lie, I'm reminded of when they said they wouldn't add new healers in I think it was either ShB or SB, because they were focusing on healer balance before adding a new one.

    Lo and Behold, they lobotomized healers across the board to make them easy to balance and then sage was announced during the EW trailer. They finally managed to balance healers by making them all braindead.

    Makes me think that they might do the same for tanks if they ever pull the "No new tanks, we're trying to balance them first" card, which they may very well do so since tanks are more or less pretty homogenized
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    Not gonna lie, I'm reminded of when they said they wouldn't add new healers in I think it was either ShB or SB, because they were focusing on healer balance before adding a new one.

    Lo and Behold, they lobotomized healers across the board to make them easy to balance and then sage was announced during the EW trailer. They finally managed to balance healers by making them all braindead.

    Makes me think that they might do the same for tanks if they ever pull the "No new tanks, we're trying to balance them first" card, which they may very well do so since tanks are more or less pretty homogenized
    Tanks are already 80% the same kit what to homogenize more?
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