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  1. #11
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    Naychan's Avatar
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    Naychan Le'mew
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    Coeurl
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    The game does kind of actively punish you if you try to do the MSQ as a healer... But healers are totally fine guys, just stop complaining and go play some other roles if you don't like spending 10 minutes spamming one button for a quest.
    Please tell me this is sarcasm ?
    Any job that has you spamming the same button for 10 min just screams of piss poor job design.
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  2. #12
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Naychan View Post
    Please tell me this is sarcasm ?
    Any job that has you spamming the same button for 10 min just screams of piss poor job design.
    Partially yes, but can you imagine for example for DT trying to do the lvl 92 fight against Gulool while only having one attack and the lowest DPS in the entire game... That would've been the Healer experience, I decided to not go through the MSQ as a Healer and I feel genuinely sorry for those that did.
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  3. #13
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    Elizasylen's Avatar
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    Senba Torii
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 100
    this is why MSQ SMN and Swap to SCH for fast queues for the dungeon/trials
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  4. #14
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Except the overwhelming amount of content doesn't even let you be a healer. You're nothing but a weak DPS with healing utility and it's been that way for years now. It's boring and trying to do any MSQ solo instance as a healer is akin to getting your teeth pulled, slow and painful
    Then in Dawntrail, instead of improving the healer solo instance, they removed most solo instances entirely for every role. Instead, now you get to stand there and watch someone die as the cutscene happens. So much for the job fantasy as a healer. Glad I swapped over to DPS/tank, even though those cutscenes weren't much better.

    But hey, at least I get to have more fun in party content and the overworld now.
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  5. #15
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    Alice Rivers
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    Instead, now you get to stand there and watch someone die as the cutscene happens. So much for the job fantasy as a healer.
    That raises another thought: Notice how in every cutscene that any healing happens, it's always someone else who does the healing (usually Alphinaud), never is it the WoL even if they're a healer? But no, as we know, the canon WoL is everything BUT healer.
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  6. #16
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
    That raises another thought: Notice how in every cutscene that any healing happens, it's always someone else who does the healing (usually Alphinaud), never is it the WoL even if they're a healer? But no, as we know, the canon WoL is everything BUT healer.
    Nah there is also many times (like when that guy who was the pretender sartrap dies) where the WOL could have intervened successfully as a ranged or a caster

    Like meteor himself the devs just seem to consider all cutscenes from the perspective of assuming that your own personal WOL is a melee
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  7. #17
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    Conant Sivrha
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Nah there is also many times (like when that guy who was the pretender sartrap dies) where the WOL could have intervened successfully as a ranged or a caster

    Like meteor himself the devs just seem to consider all cutscenes from the perspective of assuming that your own personal WOL is a melee
    Even if you are a melee, you should still be able to move. The WoL’s default state is standing around with a vaguely surprised or disapproving look on their face while people get killed. Anything else is a special exception. To polite to interrupt those fun scenes of mass slaughter while the writers are trying to use them to advance the plot and/or make us feel bad, perhaps?
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  8. #18
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I sort of wish that the solo duties would bend round your role i.e healing wuk lamat, fighting along side her or protecting her.
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  9. #19
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
    That raises another thought: Notice how in every cutscene that any healing happens, it's always someone else who does the healing (usually Alphinaud), never is it the WoL even if they're a healer? But no, as we know, the canon WoL is everything BUT healer.
    I could swear there was a couple of scenes in Endwalker/Shadowbringers where if you're a healer, you actually look to alphinaud and nod then you help him heal the character in question. But it happens like twice in several expansions.
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  10. #20
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    Alice Rivers
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I remember there being that one time where being a WHM is mentioned by an NPC as optional dialogue. But I have no memory of it happening it cutscenes, then again, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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