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    Alyxandria Ashwren
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    SE's treatment of MCH is a joke

    The "buff" to MCH just isn't enough. DNC and BRD will always outclass MCH as gear for the party improves and they have a higher buff feed. Whereas MCH damage being a "selfish" dps is left out in the cold.

    By the time the rest of the party has decent gear or one melee has been funnelled MCH is absoutley outclassed.

    The idea of a "selfish" ranged dps just doesn't work when the description of the ranged role literally says support.

    You can't have a selfish job that also pays the ranged tax. It's ridiculous. MCH doesn't bring enough personal dps to outshine DNC and BRD buffs and can't be buffed because of "mobility."

    Just give MCH a 2 minute raid buff or give physical ranged some love in general because all 3 have serious issues right now

    EDIT: Also please SE FIX WILDFIRE! It's the only ability in the game that can't crit/dh and it makes MCH even more of a joke compared to DNC/BRD because their entire burst can crit and not grief crit buffs like chained and litany. WF needs to be an auto crit/dh.
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    Last edited by Hanzz96; 07-30-2024 at 06:21 PM.

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    its true
    they either gotta bite the bullet and give MCH a damaging raid buff or just give it a reasonable DPS boost to be worthy of being a selfish DPS.

    every role does not need this archetype of class imho
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    It's so sad when bringing mch week 1 while racing is trolling in the last floor when there's even a little bit of gear because DNC and BRD just outclass with buffs. SE have no idea what to do with this job
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    Camulos Kellesha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    they either gotta bite the bullet and give MCH a damaging raid buff or just give it a reasonable DPS boost to be worthy of being a selfish DPS.
    Imagine if barrel stabiliser gave a direct hit buff or something. I mean... it would fit the name?
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    Give MCH basically Searing Light but call it Overclocked and make it a double weave with barrel stabiliser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzz96 View Post
    The idea of a "selfish" ranged dps just doesn't work when the description of the ranged role literally says support.

    You can't have a selfish job that also pays the ranged tax. It's ridiculous. MCH doesn't bring enough personal dps to outshine DNC and BRD buffs and can't be buffed because of "mobility."
    I just don't understand why they at least don't bring MCH up to DRG / NIN / MNK / PIC levels. These jobs pay the utility tax and MCH the mobility tax. Why should they not be equal dps wise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I just don't understand why they at least don't bring MCH up to DRG / NIN / MNK / PIC levels. These jobs pay the utility tax and MCH the mobility tax. Why should they not be equal dps wise?
    Because SE designed phys ranged as support and forgot mch existed. The job has had 2 full reworks since it launched in HW and they just refuse to make a selfish ranged work and it is refusal at this point
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzz96 View Post
    Because SE designed phys ranged as support and forgot mch existed. The job has had 2 full reworks since it launched in HW and they just refuse to make a selfish ranged work and it is refusal at this point
    The sad part is that even in it's Stormblood iteration it was a better selfish DPS than nowadays while also providing a Trick Attack equivalent. Sure it was agony to play but when it worked it was actually up there in DPS.
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I just don't understand why they at least don't bring MCH up to DRG / NIN / MNK / PIC levels. These jobs pay the utility tax and MCH the mobility tax. Why should they not be equal dps wise?
    This is why I believe they should just bring back 3.0 MCH. The reason why the play style wasn't received well because they also applied to BRD for no reason, and when they rolled back BRD in SB, they also remove the unique style from MCH.

    I rather like how heavy shot work in PvP, and if they bring it back to PvE, there can be a case to argue for the removal of the mobility tax.
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    Leih'to Molkoh
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    Hopefully when they add the next ranged DPS in 8.0 they make it a selfish one and finally give love to the selfish ranged DPS role.
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