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    KLuz's Avatar
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    Keanu Luz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    Give advice when asked for advice and you can't go wrong. Otherwise, don't.
    So I should resign to failing the duty then? What happens when advice isn't solicited though it should be?
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    Lilimo Limomo
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    Quote Originally Posted by KLuz View Post
    So I should resign to failing the duty then? What happens when advice isn't solicited though it should be?
    In you original post, you stated that you wanted to be a good mentor. Assuming that's true, then I recommend that you make the foundation of your mentorship one of respect for your mentee.

    Here's what I hope is an easy test; when you are mentoring, which of these is more important:
    • your mentee getting good ASAP so the content can be completed
    • respecting your mentee's distinct needs and boundaries

    Any time you are tempted to choose the first option, you are at risk of being a poor mentor. Not only because trespassing a person's boundaries makes them less likely to listen and learn, but also because it means that something aside from your mentee has become your primary focus. If you truly want to be a good mentor, that means mentoring at your mentee's pace. Players who are ready to receive advice will usually ask for it. Players who aren't ready for advice will usually not ask for it.

    It's fun to figure out mechanics. It's fun to have that moment of "a-ha!" realization when it finally clicks. Let players chase that. Let players organically iterate and improve. When they want advice, they'll usually ask for it.

    So instead of resigning yourself to "failing the duty", resign yourself to "keep trying". After all, that's what your mentee is doing. Whether they learn quickly or slowly, they will eventually get there, as long as nobody gives them a reason to give up.

    And that's how you can still be a great mentor in these situations: by mitigating the possibility that someone will get on this person's case for not being good at a game fast enough. By being a cheerleader for the group, you proactively keep the vibes positive and mitigate their likelihood of souring. Saying something like "Hell yeah, getting better! " reassures anyone who is having trouble that the vibe is still positive, and that in turn will reduce any critical self-talk they're experiencing, which would otherwise hinder their ability to learn. Plus, they'll have more fun when they're less worried about their group hating them, and that's a great thing to be able to provide to others!

    The other purpose of saying something positive is that people often assume that others feel the same way they do. So if someone is feeling negative about the number of failures, they might assume others are as well and feel like they're speaking for the group if they say something about it. When you say something that makes it clear that your vibe is one of positivity, hopefulness, and a willingness to keep trying, that makes it clear that not everyone is feeling negatively, which can mitigate the likelihood of any vocal conflict. It might even encourage them to feel positively about it as well, especially if you can do a good job of encouraging camaraderie.

    Sometimes you won't be able to stay positive. Sometimes you'll find yourself feeling impatient. That's okay! You're a person and you have feelings and needs, too! So if you find that you don't have the energy to be the kind of mentor you'd like to be, own that. If you need to, make an excuse about a sudden minor emergency ("My cat spilled soup, I need to clean it before it stains the carpet!") so you can leave the group and attend to your own needs. But it's important to recognize that your impatience is a you problem, and not to make that other people's problem.

    I hope that this advice helps you to be the best mentor you can be! Best of luck!

    (also, this is advice for normal difficulty content; I can't speak on EX/Savage stuff)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KLuz View Post
    So I should resign to failing the duty then? What happens when advice isn't solicited though it should be?
    Slap a safety dorito on your head and start jumping in the safespots.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Slap a safety dorito on your head and start jumping in the safespots.
    that would actually be really fun lol. "FOLLOW ME EVERYONE!! FOLLOW THE DORITO!!"
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