WHM should be hitting as hard as SGE, why isn't it?

[Exiled_Tonberry]

WHM and SGE are both the "selfish" healers in their respective categories, selfish in this case meaning they don't give rDPS buffs like SCH and AST.

Clearly the intention is to have a hard hitting pure healer and a hard hitting barrier healer, so why is it that SGE damage outperforms WHM damage so blatantly? Their single target attack is stronger, they have way more DPS options, their level 92 attack is straight up a nuke every 60s.

It's not like WHM brings a better healing kit because SGE actually does WHMs job better, so I can't wrap my head around why WHM can't do at least as much damage as SGE.

There was a time when difficulty of the job played a role in it's damage, but SGE also has buttons that gives instant results like WHM, they just have more which is not a matter of complexity, they just have a better healing kit. Actually WHM ends up being harder because they have such a weaker kit that healing become more intense for them.

So why is it the case that this is allowed, is it balancing issues or is there something I'm missing here?

[CaptainLagbeard]

WHM should not be hitting as hard as SGE.

All Healers should be hitting as hard as Tanks at a minimum.

[Alice_Rivers]

All Healers should be hitting as hard as Tanks at a minimum.

So every healer needs a damage buff?

[CaptainLagbeard]

So every healer needs a damage buff?

Absolutely.

[Alice_Rivers]

Sweet, that would kill SMN though.

[IDontPetLalas]

Sweet, that would kill SMN though.

That makes as much sense as saying that tanks having more than one damage skill put melee DPS out of their jobs.

[Alice_Rivers]

I did some training dummy stuff with WHM and SMN back in EW with like for like ilvls, when comparing the damage numbers for single and multitarget attacks the damage per hit was near enough the same more often than not, with the exception of SMN's really high damage stuff the crit and direct crit hits went in favour of WHM.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

WHM should not be hitting as hard as SGE.

All Healers should be hitting as hard as Tanks at a minimum.

Well yeah I do agree healers shouldn’t be hitting like wet noodles, but that might be asking for too much right now. At the very least fix the imbalance between the healers first before bringing them all up with tanks.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I did some training dummy stuff with WHM and SMN back in EW with like for like ilvls, when comparing the damage numbers for single and multitarget attacks the damage per hit was near enough the same more often than not, with the exception of SMN's really high damage stuff the crit and direct crit hits went in favour of WHM.

According to some funny divining website that should not be named, average SMN has always been pulling about 50% more than an average WHM in both rDPS and aDPS department. They are nowhere 'close', not in the slightest.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Well yeah I do agree healers shouldn’t be hitting like wet noodles, but that might be asking for too much right now. At the very least fix the imbalance between the healers first before bringing them all up with tanks.

Both Tanks and Healers are kind of support roles, their primary purpose isn't doing damage so their baseline damage output should be roughly the same. But it's nowhere near on the same level.

And the earlier they fix the issue, the better it will be. Buffing up the healers might cause a lot of content to be easier, but that's ultimately because they didn't do their job in the first place which lead to this issue of the roles being horribly unbalanced.