Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[Papayatar]

Let’s be real this was on of the most unbelievable infos they gave us. You really in all honesty want to tell me that wuk lamat never ever traveled to any area that is around the capital and never did leave the capital or had contact with any of the people and culture they have ???

TBF in the Hanu Hanu zone she said she had gone there at least once for the festival with Lizard Dad. But the way she talked about it sounded like she was a child so she wasn’t paying attention to anything other than “festivals are fun”. But also with her personality I wouldn’t be surprised if that one time she went was the year prior to all the current MSQ either…

Though not to completely defend her because when it was brought up in story I thought it’d mean she’d have something insightful or important to add because some memory would tie into her figuring out why the festival was important, which would help her get the keystone. But she really just lucked into that all working out in the end….

Also, sheltered Princess who never left home and only knows peace and happiness and all that jazz, could have made sense, if she got reality checked at least once. And/Or if at minimum on the surface all of Tural being joined by her dad seemed everyone was cool, but reality was more like Cats vs Lizard area (and maybe the Giants too with that one group who didn’t join the peace and love party). Could have worked well to have her views of the world (aka only inside the city/Tulliyolal) be challenged. They could have wrote her with some actual conflicts to solve to get the keystones, even if it was still just Mediator Wuk Lamat.

Unfortunately, it’s just a lot of “could”s that could’ve been a slightly better story.

[Coratanni]

It would be funny if EX3 came out and the whole fight revolved around Poochie, with mechanics including but not limited to:

*Players cannot directly attack the boss, as they must instead rely on Wuk's attacks to damage the boss. Instead the boss is just a bunch of looping adds phases where players must kill the adds to prevent them from getting in Wuk's way until she kills the boss herself

*Wuk Lamat has a health bar and if it drops to 0 the raid instantly wipes; players must take turns blocking tethers that attack Wuk and healers must expend consistent GCDs on Wuk to keep her alive

*Players are afflicted with a permanent crippling 99% damage down debuff, the only way to get rid of it is by standing right next to Wuk Lamat at all times

*When Wuk deals 50% of the boss's HP, a 2 minute cutscene plays where Wuk talks to Sphene, reminiscing about how much she learned about Alexandria's culture from her and wishing they can still have peace so she can introduce tacos to Alexandria

*At several intervals a message appears saying "Put your trust in Wuk Lamat!" requiring all 8 players to use the /cheer emote on Wuk to make her do a tank Limit Break, if one player fails to cheer Wuk the party wipes from the next attack

Please look forward to it.

And the mount is Wuk Lamat Princess carrying you.

[Plumerian_Ariadust]

It would be funny if EX3 came out and the whole fight revolved around Poochie, with mechanics including but not limited to:

*Players cannot directly attack the boss, as they must instead rely on Wuk's attacks to damage the boss. Instead the boss is just a bunch of looping adds phases where players must kill the adds to prevent them from getting in Wuk's way until she kills the boss herself

*Wuk Lamat has a health bar and if it drops to 0 the raid instantly wipes; players must take turns blocking tethers that attack Wuk and healers must expend consistent GCDs on Wuk to keep her alive

*Players are afflicted with a permanent crippling 99% damage down debuff, the only way to get rid of it is by standing right next to Wuk Lamat at all times

*When Wuk deals 50% of the boss's HP, a 2 minute cutscene plays where Wuk talks to Sphene, reminiscing about how much she learned about Alexandria's culture from her and wishing they can still have peace so she can introduce tacos to Alexandria

*At several intervals a message appears saying "Put your trust in Wuk Lamat!" requiring all 8 players to use the /cheer emote on Wuk to make her do a tank Limit Break, if one player fails to cheer Wuk the party wipes from the next attack

Please look forward to it.

Please don't, that's scary.

[Antharaes]

It doesn't make up for anything that has to do with WL, not by a long shot, but the day-time music in Shaaloani is stellar. As are most of the themes, except Tuliyollal, I dislike the jazzy, big band vibe.

[Galvuu]

Let’s be real this was on of the most unbelievable infos they gave us. You really in all honesty want to tell me that wuk lamat never ever traveled to any area that is around the capital and never did leave the capital or had contact with any of the people and culture they have ??? Like she’s so into the entire I want to keep peace and happiness of the people and has no freaking idea what this peace and happiness really is from all the different culture and she just comes into contact with it while you help here win the throne and don’t forget she comes in and wins it without any set back or problems because she can Jedi mindtrick people with talking.

It's worse than that- it's downright stated she did leave the capital, she went to a past Hanu reed festival where Gulool Ja Ja was the one riding the float. Imagine going abroad to attend a festival- as part of an important political committee no less- and not even knowing how to greet the locals. Even if she were very young (and we know she couldn't have been younger than 5/6, since that's when she was adopted), you'd have been taught this. By her own account, the festival is a fond memory of hers (to the point she expressed she wished she could be the one riding the float one day). So how did she forget such a basic thing? I have Quebecois family and I was taught some very basic French greetings when I was 4 or 5 and I still remember it 28 years later.
She's written like an absolute bleeding idiot- none of her characterization of past story makes sense.

It becomes worse when you realize her father is a storied warrior, ruler and peace-maker. Really, you're telling me Gulool Ja Ja didn't share stories of his past adventures and exploits with his children? That, thought he's a pacifist with a dream of unification, he didn't lecture his children on the different cultures and regions he visited and united? On his past battle and exploits, and how he leveraged his knowledge of local customs and understanding of their issues and aspirations to bring lasting peace?
People who have relatives- like a grandfather or an uncle who fought in a large war- know how, sometimes, they share their war stories, often as a cautionary tale. It violently strains my belief that DT somehow makes it seem that this was never really the case with Wuk Lamat beyond the very superficial story she recounts from the murals. Like, needing to "rediscover" the history behind Xibruq Pibil... did Gulool Ja Ja, the pacifist, ever tell this tale? This sounds exactly like what he should lean on to show the way to peace needn't be bought through force of arms alone. Did she never ask him? Did neither other two siblings? I dunno... my family had a much less remarkable past and I still asked them about their stories. And they paint Gulool Ja Ja as this warm, approachable fellow too. I can't make sense of this in my head. Probably because it's all terrible writing

[Mortex]

It's worse than that- it's downright stated she did leave the capital, she went to a past Hanu reed festival where Gulool Ja Ja was the one riding the float. Imagine going abroad to attend a festival- as part of an important political committee no less- and not even knowing how to greet the locals. Even if she were very young (and we know she couldn't have been younger than 5/6, since that's when she was adopted), you'd have been taught this. By her own account, the festival is a fond memory of hers (to the point she expressed she wished she could be the one riding the float one day). So how did she forget such a basic thing? I have Quebecois family and I was taught some very basic French greetings when I was 4 or 5 and I still remember it 28 years later.
She's written like an absolute bleeding idiot- none of her characterization of past story makes sense.

It becomes worse when you realize her father is a storied warrior, ruler and peace-maker. Really, you're telling me Gulool Ja Ja didn't share stories of his past adventures and exploits with his children? That, thought he's a pacifist with a dream of unification, he didn't lecture his children on the different cultures and regions he visited and united? On his past battle and exploits, and how he leveraged his knowledge of local customs and understanding of their issues and aspirations to bring lasting peace?
People who have relatives- like a grandfather or an uncle who fought in a large war- know how, sometimes, they share their war stories, often as a cautionary tale. It violently strains my belief that DT somehow makes it seem that this was never really the case with Wuk Lamat beyond the very superficial story she recounts from the murals. Like, needing to "rediscover" the history behind Xibruq Pibil... did Gulool Ja Ja, the pacifist, ever tell this tale? This sounds exactly like what he should lean on to show the way to peace needn't be bought through force of arms alone. Did she never ask him? Did neither other two siblings? I dunno... my family had a much less remarkable past and I still asked them about their stories. And they paint Gulool Ja Ja as this warm, approachable fellow too. I can't make sense of this in my head. Probably because it's all terrible writing

Don’t forget this also paints gulool jaja as a complete idiot father and teacher. Like effectively the kids know nothing about culture or history of the land he rules and he didn’t taught his adoptive kids anything or told them anything all these years and then he says in the middle of the crowing trial that they aren’t ready too sit on the throne?????? Like no shit sherlock ofc they aren’t ready if you didn’t teach them shit for over 10 years.

[Chrome_Aerial]

the thing is. all the scions (except alphinaud and alisae appearently) already have like at least 2 decades of life experience. they KNOW how the world works. mainly cuz they are schoalrs/fighters in eorzia.
eorzia IS a brutal place where people would literaly kill you over a simple argument or a sack of 1500 gil.
Wuk lamat is a Young adult (probably around the 18-20 range) has lived most her life as a royalty behind the city walls and knows absolutely nothing.
i can appreciate her shock or wonder in the things she learns. but the sheer level of naive behaviour and just sheer idiocy where sha can't even wrap her head around the fact the world has 13 reflections (or look alike worlds) is just stupid... even my youngest sister when she was 10 years old could understand this concept. gra'ha tia literaly explained it and she's just there with gaping mouth trying to understand even basic principles.

she's forced in too many cutscenes, with a mindset thats TOO MUCH vow of reason rather then Vow of resolve. and seriously... you'd think Goluul ja ja would have taught her about the very nation she lives in in the years she lvied but alas. he's indeed more a king/warrior then a father. i still like the guy tho. not so much wuk lamat.

[Voidmage]

the thing is. all the scions (except alphinaud and alisae appearently) already have like at least 2 decades of life experience. they KNOW how the world works. mainly cuz they are schoalrs/fighters in eorzia.
eorzia IS a brutal place where people would literaly kill you over a simple argument or a sack of 1500 gil.
Wuk lamat is a Young adult (probably around the 18-20 range) has lived most her life as a royalty behind the city walls and knows absolutely nothing.
i can appreciate her shock or wonder in the things she learns. but the sheer level of naive behaviour and just sheer idiocy where sha can't even wrap her head around the fact the world has 13 reflections (or look alike worlds) is just stupid... even my youngest sister when she was 10 years old could understand this concept. gra'ha tia literaly explained it and she's just there with gaping mouth trying to understand even basic principles.

she's forced in too many cutscenes, with a mindset thats TOO MUCH vow of reason rather then Vow of resolve. and seriously... you'd think Goluul ja ja would have taught her about the very nation she lives in in the years she lvied but alas. he's indeed more a king/warrior then a father. i still like the guy tho. not so much wuk lamat.

Just quoting you because you are the last comment with the topic.

I don't know were the notion comes from that she was sheltered.
She tells us herself in 6.55 that she goes out hunting.
In the beginning of DT we see people openly interact with her because she is the most approachable.
Its not like she was a disney princess that was never allowed to leave her castle.

The whole festival thing with the birds is also stupid.
Even as a child she should have been able to remember the greeting and I'm pretty sure those VanuVanu also did that in the city (all else would be stupid).

Galool JaJa had his faults as a father yes.
He had some serious favorism going on and the whole trial stuff was short sighted.
But he absolutely did not forbid his children to explore the continent and it's people.
Koana was even allowed to go to Sharlayan and Wuk Lamat was taken to festivals.

If anything his children were the ignorant ones.
Koana never bothering to learn the cultures of the people,
Zoraal Ja only being interested in fighting,
Wuk Lamat being a completely hypocrit with preaching peace and understanding but never having bothered to learn about her people.

One of them learned his erros, one of them died for his idiocy and the third one never changed at all and was succsessfull anyway.

She was just a badly written character. Not the fault of her father in my opinion.

[fulminating]

I don't know were the notion comes from that she was sheltered.

Her naivety couldn't possibly have survived contact with anything approaching reality, hence sheltered.

[Chrome_Aerial]

okay while i agree on several of ur comments.

i never said she was a disney princess stuck in her castle. i mentioned things with the word MOSTLY or MOST.
she goes out hunting is fine and all but hunting is not meeting people or learning cultures. its literaly the locating and killing of a prey. wich most likely she did only with landsguard members or other hunters.
if she went out to talk to people so often then how is it she is so ignorant about their cultures and lifestyles? it just shows that she didn't do that to begin with. you cannot socialize with people and not learn jack shit about them unless you literaly aren't listening to what people have to say to you. people find her approachable because she is the only Promise that talks back. (and most of those who mentioned she is approachable are those IN tuliyollal and thus WITHIN the city walls)

yes i blame her father because if he wanted his children to take the throne he should have prepared them much better on what is required to be a dawnservant and not just tell them to go out and find out yourselves. its your job as a parent to prepare your kids for the harsh world outside the city walls. and he failed at that. he's a cool guy. but gulool ja ja isn't a great father when it comes to teaching his kids how fucked up the world really is. they just had to see for themselves.