how well did SE represent your cultures in dawntrail?

[Raven2014]

My culture is not in the game, and for that I'm actually grateful.

Because when I see how F14 try to represent other culture ...

I'm not sure I want to see them trying mine.

[Mukouda]

My culture is not in the game, and for that I'm actually grateful.

Because when I see how F14 try to represent other culture ...

I'm not sure I want to see them trying mine.

Is just such a simple thing to do, go straight to the source, do not go to a diversity consultant or whatever. Hire someone from the place you want to do or go there yourself if you are able. Learn as much as you can the good, the bad, the ugly, the strange, etc.

[lolnotacat]

Is just such a simple thing to do, go straight to the source, do not go to a diversity consultant or whatever. Hire someone from the place you want to do or go there yourself if you are able. Learn as much as you can the good, the bad, the ugly, the strange, etc.

Unfortunately I don't think it's that simple. Yoshi claimed to have hired cultural consultants, though I'm kinda curious what company that actually was.

To actually get it right seems more like a monumental task. One example I can think of revolving around Mexican culture and is done pretty well is Coco. I remember watching a short video about it. They sent out entire teams for weeks or even months to make sure they got things right and I can't remember any major issues aside from supposedly not paying the model used for Mama Coco.

[Petroglyph]

answering OP: okay. that's it. just okay. pretty shallowly, but I felt like everything the narrative touched was pretty shallow

though i actually was like, maybe disproportionately tilted when in-text they described tacos as "baked shells". I know tacos horneados exist, but they're not the like, quintessential idea, the Platonic Perfect form of taco (exaggerating for comedy). It more gives me the idea that the writers think tacos are those dumb Old El Paso taco kits lol

otherwise shallow but ineffensive. my partner is grateful Brazil was mostly left out, but they did enjoy the Afro-Cuban jazz of Tuliyolal. me too tbh

[ApolloGenX]

Is just such a simple thing to do, go straight to the source, do not go to a diversity consultant or whatever. Hire someone from the place you want to do or go there yourself if you are able. Learn as much as you can the good, the bad, the ugly, the strange, etc.

If only there were SA voice actors.....

[LuciferMournstar]

Unfortunately I don't think it's that simple. Yoshi claimed to have hired cultural consultants, though I'm kinda curious what company that actually was.

To actually get it right seems more like a monumental task. One example I can think of revolving around Mexican culture and is done pretty well is Coco. I remember watching a short video about it. They sent out entire teams for weeks or even months to make sure they got things right and I can't remember any major issues aside from supposedly not paying the model used for Mama Coco.

Sweet Baby Inc. is the "Consultant Company" they hired. They've been involved in many of SE's titles now, and have SE listed as clients. That's why "representation" sucks in DT, and is more akin to "Tourist Level". Sweet Baby Inc. only has surface knowledge of anything other than African American and LGBTQ++ pandering, while falsely claiming to be "experts" in others, while also spread a message of hatred toward "CiS Gender white people" most of all "Straight White Male Gamers", which apparently are the literal incarnation of Satan to them.

Side Note : I loved Coco. Mostly when abuelita asked "Do you want some more Temales?" and he says "No, gracias". Abuelita says "I ASKED IF YOU WANT SOME MORE TEMALES?!" and he goes "Si, gracias" and Abuelita says "That's what I thought you said!" That is a trick question, when abuelita ask if you want more temales, she's not asking if you want more temales period, she's asking HOW MANY more you want. You do not get to say no more.

[Mukouda]

If only there were SA voice actors.....

Humberto Velez for Wuk Lamat confirmed.

[Zakuyia]

Coming from the crowd who wanted difficulty I think they represented us well

[LuciferMournstar]

Source for this please? I've seen a lot of people say they worked on Dawntrail, but no one has posted irrefutable proof of it such as them being credited anywhere.

https://sweetbabyinc.com/projects/

Listed as a client. They rarely update their "Announced Projects", and name games specifically anymore. You can thank Kalbrutus and "Sweet Baby Inc. Detected" for that. After all the games they destroyed to inject their "message", the public backlash of saying SBI was involved, has been a PR nightmare for any game developer. So they don't bother anymore unless it was already previously announced. They are using "Plausible Deniability" to keep from public backlash. They'll announce on some games that are small Indie developers like the most recent game Concord that, by the way, has flopped HARD. They got their money from the small game developer, so they don't care because even if that game sinks, they got paid.

Think of it like this : Sweet Baby Inc. is basically a mafia type deal. They use all the same tactics of threats and intimidation to extort money from game developers. If you don't give them what they want, they will slander your game and company as "Bigoted, racist, -phobic" thanks to their "friends" at "Game Journalist" sites like Kotaku and IGN. Now, small game devs that are intimidated, are like a mafia "Bust Out". A bust-out is a type of credit card fraud where an individual applies for a credit card, builds up a normal payment history, and then maxes it out with no intention of paying the bill. The credit in this case, being the game developers wallet and the game "selling well." Basically think of it like this : SBI got their money, and once that's over, if the small game dev sinks because they couldn't cover the bills of the "credit", that's their problem. Now SE and FFXIV? That's a whole other ball game. That's a BIG boy, one that promises continued income and is established. That is one THEY DO NOT want to sink, so they hide on that one while still pushing their "message" and getting their money. It's an ongoing extortion tactic, and one they want nobody to see because it's too lucrative to ruin.

[Asari5]

am i the only one who think its weird how the cowboys and their cities who are in the wild west for the oil all are named like native americans?

i mean most of them are native americans but it feels very weird